[0719] The Dangers Of Sexting
└ posted on Thursday, 17 September 2015, by Novil
- Caption: While the district attorney decided not to press charges against Larisa because of her age and medical history, she has to learn that all actions have consequences.
- School psychologist: I’m very disappointed in you, Larisa.
- School psychologist: Just when I was starting to believe that you had developed some sense of responsibility, I heard your name in the news.
- Larisa: I’m sorry…
- School psychologist: Such acts can destroy not only your own life, but also the lives of many other people!
- School psychologist: Just ask the 47 million SnapPic users who’ve been remanded in custody for the possession of child pornography!
![[0719] The Dangers Of Sexting](/comics/2015-09-17-0719-the-dangers-of-sexting.png "[0719] The Dangers Of Sexting")
Xezlec wrote:
But it’s WRONG!!!!
@ Cellex:
Distribution, and also production, since she took the picture. And yeah, insane as it sounds, this is something that actually happens. Protecting children from abuse and exploitation is one thing, but when teenagers are getting locked up (and saddled with a lifelong record as sex offenders) for naked selfies, I think things have gone off the rails just a little.
Wouldn’t it be fun if Larisa counters the school psychologist’s claim with it’s obvious impossibility? Even if one claims the arrests are not only the US but also Canada and Mexico I don’t see how they could arrest such a significant share of their overall population in any reasonable timeframe.
Even if one assumes that the warrants would even all have due cause I don’t see how the logistics could possibly work out. The police, justice and prision system is overstrained in each of those nation’s population centeres just as it is now. How could they write 47 million requests for arrest warrants, present them to judges and get them handled? Additionally in a scenario where a significant portion of their own staff can’t take part in the process (since they belong to those who got the pic). After that find enough officers to make the arrests and enough confinment space. Bringing those cases to trial would be the final overkills of the system.
So let Larisa call her out on it in the next comic. Let’s see how she deals with the consequenses of her obvious attempt to manipulate her patient (and thus breaking the trust that should be the working basis in her profession) :D.
And all for a nude selfie pic that shows nothing more
like Broke Shield in the movie “Pretty Baby”.
Unless it is under art protection like old movies, it is
banned now. Too weired how things has come out
of control.
This is probably disaster for Larisa. She always imagined that if she’s gonna be an ass to 47 million people, it’d be fire-related. Now she has to suffer eternal shame it was merely a hot picture, not self-combustible letters sent to half of America.
@ Berandal:Posession is nine-tenths of the law
@ NotASpy:
Not as amusing as the commenters who don’t realise that Australia was the replacement penal colony for America, post-Revolution.
@ Xezlec:
Yeah, we Europeans can be plenty creepy too, don’t push us underestimate us XD
AlexDenton wrote:
Oh dear lord I don’t know how to express myself anymore …
@ Berandal:
Possession of child pornography is still a felony. If you buy a house and it is in a hole boarded up in the basement, it is still yours according to the law.
And based on teenagers being prosecuted for child pornography for taking pictures of themselves in their underwear? Yeah I believe the system would be all to happy to arrest every single person and throw them into the new prisons that will need to be built to hold them all. Lots of cash in that you know. And they can do it by following the letter of the law.
@ Lookfar:
or 3 million people sent in the complaints to their local police stations
Wait so she basically got the equivalent of approximately 1/7 of the U.S.A.’s population arrested… How were there enough jail cells? This is complete and utter lunacy.
If people don’t think this is possible in real life, have a look at this: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150903/09480532154/sexting-teen-charged-with-sexually-exploiting-himself.shtml
The kid is both the accused and the defendant.
On the other hand, if you’re sent illegal material that is unsolicited and you’ve not done anything to get hold of it, you’re not breaking any law if you don’t keep it. If not, you could send CP to your senator and get him thrown in jail for it.
This is a comic strip! A non-realistic comic strip! Why is everyone so hung up on the realism of 47 million arrests in a world where talking raccoons, manifest gods, and Tonberries exist?
Am I the only one thinking that last panel’s a bit over the top?
But then, that is how a lot of laws work…
Hmm, Think this is the first time I saw the School Psychologist’s entire face. Time to check all school psychologist tags to see if I just missed a strip.
@ Cellex:
That recently happened here in the UK.
@ coyoteBR:
How would you be able to tell with the place?
@ 1overX:
1overX wrote:
Distribution of child porn of course. I heard that a 13 year old girl in the US was charged with exactly that after sending nude pics of herself to men she met online.
To the person who said that all those millions of people should have deleted the pic…doesn’t work. Firstly, a couple of guys were tried in the UK recently for unsolicited animal porn that someone sent them. In one case the guy didn’t even realise he had been sent it, in the other the guy deleted it but it didn’t get deleted properly. They were let off with a slap on the wrist on the grounds that it was unsolicited content.
Secondly, when you delete content it often doesn’t get deleted but just moved to some sort of recycling bin, and even if it is “properly deleted” all that really does is remove the file from the file systems lookup table. A forensic search fo the phone will still reveal it (unless you use an app that does some sort of military grade data destruction) and could be used as evidence of guilt of owning child pronography.
Let’s not get into download caches.
The fact is that in these days you have little to no control over the content on any computer device, yet you still remain culpable in the eyes of the law in many countries for the content on that device.
@ Berandal:
I don’t know about other countries, but here in the US any possession of child pornography (or anything that could be even remotely considered similar to child pornography) is a felony, regardless of how one came into possession of it. Even if it’s in your unemptied spam filter and you don’t even know it’s there, the law would consider it possession.
@ NameyMcNamey:
Depends on state laws. And how pissed the feds are when they arrest you.
Good luck finding enough people for the juries.
@ EvilMidnightLurker:
My theory is that many people never fully develop the ‘Formal Operational Stage’ of cognitive development. I think some are mainly stuck in the concrete operational mode. From wikipedia:
“The final stage is known as the formal operational stage (adolescence and into adulthood, roughly ages 11 to approximately 15-20): Intelligence is demonstrated through the logical use of symbols related to abstract concepts. This form of thought includes “assumptions that have no necessary relation to reality.”[44] At this point, the person is capable of hypothetical and deductive reasoning. During this time, people develop the ability to think about abstract concepts.”
NameyMcNamey wrote:
It doesn’t matter what the law says or how stupid the legal system is, you cannot put 1/7 of your country’s population into custody. How the heck would you even go about doing that?
SidH wrote:
Or you have overlooked some caching mechanism that keeps it in memory long enough. Though I’d expect most people to have figured out how to properly erase it before their arrest.
erejnion wrote:
On the contrary, I’d be grateful for bringing this nonsense into public discussion.
It’s barely child porning anyone if it’s this obvious, and it should reduce the firepower of these attacks in the future – and the general insanity surrounding the topic. Some personal inconvenience of a casual mass-arrest or whatever would be acceptable collateral damage in this case.
There have been proposals of how to run this kind of far-reaching attack. Encoding child porn into the Bitcoin Block Chain was seriously discussed and might yet happen. (Data in there is effectively impossible to delete and trivial to obtain.)
But I don’t think it has been done so far, because you have to REALLY trust your anonymization to do this – some people will want your head on a plate and will use all types of side-channels and analysis methods to find you – and there is a real possibility that it will turn into a war between the executive and Bitcoin instead of achieving anything.
Larisa’s way is so much smoother. (Though, for this to work in the real world, a method to at least complicate deletion is missing.) Nothing objectively bad happens to anyone, except for the obviously pointless police action that wouldn’t go anywhere – a necessary evil to give people a wake-up call.
Illegal data that can be trivially created is an idiotic idea that must be stopped. It makes a headless weapon of the police and media that can be, and has repeatedly been, used to take down people who have never done harm to anyone, but got into the cross-hair of someone who could benefit from their demise. Money and manipulation can easily be used to ignite or amplify society’s anger when it’s for the “good of children”, while random, innocent people contemplate suicide because their PC had a security flaw and happened to make a good relay.
I think it’s safe to say that, to some, Larisa would be a hero. The others, meh, I guess they’d get bored of insulting her about this soon enough.
StrangeBard wrote:
Currently there are over 2 million people in US prisons (2.2 million adults in 2013) . In 2000 they were about one million…
in 2008 about one in 31 adults in the USA was behind bars or was being monitored (parole or probation).
In 1998 there were five private prisons with a total of about 2000 inmates. In 2008 there were over 100 private prisons and they housed about 62,000 prisoners. I have no idea how many they are today, but they are probably even more common today. The private prisons has become big business, and companies involved does on occasion use lobbyists while trying to influence state laws in ways that will make sure they receive a steady flow of prisoners.
Yes this comic does exaggerate a bit. There is no way you could incarcerate 52 million people on a short notice. But if the situation “demanded” it I’m sure the private prison industry would be eager to step up and take care of the problem. For a price of course…
@ Persia:
Georgia was a penal colony. The rest of America was a place British people went willingly, often for religious freedom.
@ Trimutius:
13, if I’m not mistaken.
Cpt. Obvious wrote:
The rate is about one in 2,500 adults in my country. Even though my country (Sweden) is lenient and has a relative low rate of crime, one in 31 adults is just absurd.
God have mercy of the country that sends 1/6 of its workforce to jail.
This has been proven the most effective terrorist weapon! XD
(The sad part is worst has happened in history.)
In Americas’s legal system, yeah, this is entirely possible.
@ nicktyrong:
Though I doubt in that same system Larisa would have gotten off. No, in that system she’s be a registered sex offender at least, and possibly serve time. And no, this is NOT unbelievable.
I finally get to understand why Sandra said that Larisa may have a crush on school psychologist… this one is seriously qute 🙂
@ MaxArt:
Except imprisoning people doesn’t necessarily remove them from the work force.
That is a LOT of arrested people. O__O
Moral of the story: always install a confirm button when developing a “Send to All” app.
@ butterbattle:
Hawt she is. Not quite as hawt as Cloud’s mom, but I got a major case of Asian fever.
Have to question the justice system when 47 million people get arrested for getting a picture they never asked for, wanted, or even knew they had. And the girl responsible gets off Scott free.
wow such hypocrisy
Wonder how often Larissa shows up here….
@ Crystalgate:
Our judicial system is massively absurd. I’d suggest watching John Oliver’s take of our prison systems and judicial systems on Youtube, he’s done multiple videos about it.
NotASpy wrote:
Really? Then how do you account for This song?
SON OF A SCOUNDREL
Big Barney Fish he got suddenly rich,
Got a big fancy house in Melbourne.
With buckets of loot and big black leather boots,
Acting so haughty and well born.
But we of Australia, we’re children of convicts
And some of us wear it quite proudly;
So as he rides by in his carriage so fine,
I wave and I call to him loudly:
Chorus:
Was your Grandma a whore?
Was your Grandpa a thief?
Where they forgers and grafters
Who fell to their grief?
If you’re born of Australia,
I know who you be;
You’re the son of a son of a
Scoundrel like me.
Maggie McKay’s got a sweet loving way
And I know that she does adore me,
But her parents, they feel it would be a bad deal;
They say that she’s much too good for me.
So as we said good-bye with a tear in our eye,
They were smiling and glad of the breaking;
But they didn’t look so proud
When I shouted out loud,
‘Til the whole floggin’ town was awaken:
Madame Marie loves the men from the sea;
She says that they’re good for business.
Her daughters are found in a section of town
Known for a certain rudeness.
Then the cops pay a call
And the judge says, “That’s all.
It’s time for a new profession.”
Marie laughed out loud and in front of the crowd
Says, “Judge, will you answer this question?”
(Chorus)
Can’t Read S&W and Gaia as much as I want anymore but…good to see the Quality is still great…..gj
@ Asrial:
Like this: Lalalalalala LAAAAAAAAAA!
I like how everyone assumed that the “black hole” page was the end of this story arc.
Including me. =P
@ coyoteBR:
I thought Manhattan already was a prison. 😉
Thanks Oliver and Powree, I spoke too soon.
And all of them were men. Hurrah for equality of the sexes.
@ Dave:
In plenty of jurisdictions (I don’t know about the US, but it includes most of Europe) it doesn’t matter whether you wanted those pics or not. If someone can prove you possessed them at any point in time, you’re in deep touble. And courts have already ruled that “Browser cache” = “Download” = “Possession” (and the occasionally the opposite, but it’s a crapshoot).
The law is just that crazy. Basically, there are no votes to be gained in relaxing the laws on pedophiles, no matter how mad or dysfunctional they are. They will only get tougher. Until something like this happens, and suddenly there are 47 million votes on the table because some people realize the fucked up shit their representatives did in their name.
I suspect it’s only a matter of time until rickrolling with child porn becomes a common occupation in the nether regions of the Internets…
@ 1overX:
How about 47million counts of indecent exposure