- Sandra: You can’t stay up there forever!
- Ye Thuza: Why isn’t this thing working anymore?!
- Yuna: My article on naked singularities in charged black holes is making good progress.
- Larisa: Sounds perverted. Aren’t you a little too young to be interested in that kind of stuff?
- Zoey: “Lady Münchhausen”… That’s what they called me when I talked about my daily life on YouTube Live.
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HAT POWER!
Larisa, missing the point
Sandra did not wear the lead-lined fedora when she started the chase, so Woo must have delivered it.
But is this Woo’s fedora, or did he also save Lloyd Parker’s (who lost his before he fell into the volcano)?
At least they’re more creative than the usual “FAKE!”
Naked singularities in charged black holes. Electrons then. Also Larisa reminds me of my friends. JK I don’t have friends.
Poor Zoey … being the token normal in a reality of talking animals, mad scientists, divine and demonic beings, and super-heroes-in-training. She’s got to learn to roll with the flow.
The comic book universe this reality will eventually evolve into in ten years or so will be rather cool.
Sorry about the double post, but it just occured to me …
Larissa is ethnic Russian. She referred to yuna’s commentary on black holes as “perverted”. Russian scientists refer to black holes as “frozen stars” because the phrase “black hole” in Russian is vulgar and perverse.
Subtle. Cool work Author Dudes.
@ Mysterious Dark Lord v3.2:
It could also be the “Naked” part in Naked Singularities
I’m… confused. A naked singularity is a black hole without an event horizon, the presence of which is why it’s called a black hole. So is she saying the resulting charge creates a naked singularity *from* a black hole by suppressing the event horizon; or that singularities without event horizons exist within the event horizon of charged black holes?
TheSkrilla wrote:
The only part that doesn’t really make sense is the singularities part.
Haven’t seen Zoey in awhile, hi Zoey!
@ MidoriLuna:
http://casa.colorado.edu/~ajsh/rn.html explains it all.
Infalling bodies can emerge again without being crushed in the central singularity.
They just don’t come out in our universe. Or, to put it another way, they emerge after an infinite time.
It's unlikely such an object could exist for more than an instant. The charge would be rapidly neutralized.
If anyone could produce one though, I’d put my money on Yuna.
Good that someone recognized ‘black hole’ is dirty in Russian. ^_^
and here we have Ye Thuza trying to use a weapon on a minor to absolve herself of responsibility
@ Mysterious Dark Lord v3.2:
Interesting. Thinking about it that way, one can imagine what the expression might mean in Russian. Also interesting: Frozen Star is the title of the piece of music used in the Flash app The Scale of the Universe 2, which is definitely worth a look if you haven’t seen it. link
StrifeSilver wrote:
No, just making an entirely different point than sweet l’il Yuna.
Can someone explain the “Lady Münchhausen” bit? A web search just points back here.
Also, is it me, or does Zoey look older in this strip?
I suppose the words “Naked [x] in [y] [z] holes” could sound perverted…
@ Mysterious Dark Lord v3.2:
> Russian scientists refer to black holes as “frozen stars” because the phrase “black hole” in Russian is vulgar and perverse.
What. “Black hole” in Russian is translated as literally “Black hole”. Never ever heard anyone calling it “Frozen star”.
Mogster wrote:
“Blah blah blah…and dramatic, extremely improbable tales of their past experiences.”
The title of this strip is basically the accusation of the implied YouTube commentators.
Also, she is older. That is how time works. 😛
@Mogster The reference you want is not to *Lady* Munchausen …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_Munchausen
“Born in Bodenwerder, Electorate of Brunswick-Lüneburg, the real-life Münchhausen fought for the Russian Empire in the Russo-Turkish War of 1735–1739. Upon retiring in 1760, he became a minor celebrity within German aristocratic circles for telling outrageous tall tales based on his military career.”
“The fictional Baron’s exploits, narrated in the first person, focus on his impossible achievements as a sportsman, soldier, and traveller, for instance riding on a cannonball, fighting a forty-foot crocodile, and travelling to the Moon.”
Mogster wrote:
Münchhausen is a medical condition where people fake illnesses or conditions to get attention, often taking harmful drugs to make themselves sick. The “Lady Münchhausen” name the YouTubers are calling her are basically saying that she’s lying to make herself more interesting.
Everyone’s aging here. Novil said that they’d start making the characters look more mature a while ago as they age in the comics. Compare Sandra from now to the first comic and you’ll see the differences.
@ Mogster:
Its a reference to munchhausen syndrome. The YouTube comment section is basically saying she makes this stuff up for clickbait.
@ Edda:
It’s not really that they get crushed though, whatever falls into the blackhole spaghettifies to the subatomic level long before reaching the singularity. So even if a blackhole connected to an exit aperture somewhere in the multiverse, it’s highly unlikely the information of what that object was would have survived in any form.
@ MidoriLuna:
But information cannot be destroyed!
Right? right? *shudders at the thought*
Mogster wrote:
Do a web search for Baron Münchausen instead. 😉
TL;DR: Baron Munchausen is a classic fictional character who kept telling rather, ah, fantastic tales, up to and including a trip to the Moon (before the industrial revolution).
well this is new never seen the comic a day earlier then it was posted o.O
@ time travel:
I mean to say atleast that my laptop reads 10:58 pm 7/16/2017
@ time travel:
Germany. 😉
@ TvTropesgotmehooked:
True, I think Hawking lost that particular bet.
@ MidoriLuna:
The information paradox was one of those things that used to keep me up at night.
Yeah, I’m weird…
>Larissa is ethnic Russian. She referred to Yuna’s commentary on black holes as “perverted”. Russian scientists refer to black holes as “frozen stars” because the phrase “black hole” in Russian is vulgar and perverse.
Huh?? No, black hole in Russian is an absolutely normal and commonly used term, and it literally translates to just “black hole” (чёрная дыра – chornaya dyrah). I never heard “frozen star” before – although I heard of “dead star” as a very rarely used kind-of-synonym.
The word “hole” is very rarely used in a lewd sense, and “black” as a racist term, but together they unmistakably refer to an astronomical object, unless one is a really bad comedian. “Black hole” is sometimes used as a metaphor for something way too heavy, such as an overweight and/or overeating person (usually a woman because word “hole” has female gender in Russian), or as a metaphor for a place that something or someone can’t easily leave.
Mysterious Dark Lord v3.2 wrote:
Funny theory, but a completely wrong one. My relative works at astronomical institute in Moscow, and i know a few people from there. No one there ever said or hinted that “чёрная дыра” is a perverted term while speaking about them. Well, it do sound a bit perverted, but only in a proper context or if you add something like “if you know what i mean”. And this is true for most russians as well. When someone on the street is talking about black holes in general, it’s an astronomical term.
As for frozen stars, the term is sometimes mistakenly used for calling black holes, but not in science papers. The concept of the frozen star is purely theoretical, and it literally means a star with a very cold fusion (lower than 300K).
Yeah, that ‘black hole is lewd in Russian’ apparently was a hoax.
I would agree the reference is rather to the Baron Münchhausen rather than to the Münchhausen Syndrome. It’s just a way to say you lies are so over the top that noone is ever going to belive them.
@ Edda:
And that is how Yuna escapes the pages of comic life into the REAL world ^_~ MWA HA HAH HAHA HAHAA
do you think Zoey is using youtube live to fill the void in her life becouse Michelle’s avoiding her after the events in #519?
@ MidoriLuna:
The “point of spagettification” depends upon the mass of the hole. You could fall through the event horizon of a really really large one without harm. In fact, without even noticing the tidal forces.
If you could escape again (as, theoretically, you could in the case Yuna’s discussing), you’d be no worse for wear. Well, not from gravitational forces anyway. There may be a “ring of fire” from quantum effects and that infinitely blue shifted light doesn’t sound healthy either.
To forestall further argument, I’ll agree this is all extremely unlikely.
But no more so than talking raccoons and assorted deities and Satan.
I suppose Sandra and Cloud have evaded The Talk
Unless, of course, Ye Thuza did a shoddy job.
This brings to light a whole other side to Ye Thuza and casts doubt on her heroic image.
“Aren’t you a little too young to be interested in that kind of stuff?”
“Yes, yes I am.”
Takes a bus to Danville (Tri-State-Area)…
@ Brian:
The syndrome is named after said character, actually.
BTW, in the name of both the syndrome and the character, it’s “Munchausen”, not “Münchhausen”. The latter is how you spell the family name of the Baron’s namesake.
“Lady Münchhausen”
I get that reference!
LOL, yes this would sound quite unbelievable…
Just make a vlog of what’s going on around you 😉
Mysterious Dark Lord v3.2 wrote:
As explained by others, they don’t and it isn’t.
There is, however, a joke about an overly politically correct editor who replaced all occurrences of “black hole” with “afro aperture”.
Mogster wrote:
it might be a reference to Munchausen syndrome,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchausen_syndrome
of course since Zoey is using youtube live it might be a referance to this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchausen_by_Internet
I’m reminded of an Archie cartoon, Principal Weatherbee conducting the school’s business by candlelight because Archie has somehow blown the power supply for Riverdale- “I tell other principals about Archie but nobody believes me!”
@ Mogster:
To add to the explanations from others, Baron Munchausen was an 17th century German nobleman famous for telling tall tales. For example, he talked of a fencing duel in which he lunged at his opponent so hard he drove the other man backwards into a wall, flattening the man against it so that passers-by thought the man was painted on the wall. His most famous or infamous tale was of being at the siege of Vienna (I believe) by the Turks. He managed to get himself onto a cannonball fired at the Turks. Halfway across, he decided he didn’t want to go see the Turks, so he hopped off the cannon-ball onto another cannonball the Turks had fired at Vienna and so landed safely back from where he had departed!
That reminds me what happened to Zoey and Michelle?
Just tell your disbelieving friends the old quote: “The Universe is not merely stranger than we imagine; it is stranger than we CAN imagine.”
@ Edda:
Its interesting to think about. Technically you’re right, in that you wouldn’t necessarily feel the effects of gravity at first, however I’d also posit that to feel no effects, you’d have to be traveling at exactly the speed of light yourself first. Once you enter the event horizon you’re going to be traveling at light speed, either in a spiral decaying orbit into the singularity or directly into it. But there’s no conventional means of escape as you’d have to go faster than light to do so. In fact you can’t even maintain a stable orbit inside the singularity without exceeding c. So for any real intents, you’re a very long string of human pasta the moment you enter the event horizon, even if relativity gives you momentary reprieve from that fate.
Edit: “maintain a stable orbit inside a black hole”, is what I meant, not inside the singularity, which sounds like something out of Star Trek technobabble.
Sir or Lady Münchhausen would make for an awesome superhero movie!
Fights crime, jumps from train to train and saves a baby, lifts a car with one hand to fix a flat tire…
But nobody believes them, because that just doesn’t happen in the real world!