![[1171] Remake II](/comics/2020-04-20-1171-remake-ii.png "[1171] Remake II")
- Hitomi: Cloud so thoughtless! Doesn’t give thirsty girl anything to drink!
- Rachel Hayer: Wasn’t it nice of Mrs. Williams to lend us her grenade launcher for the cosplay competition?
- Bob Hayer: I don’t know!
- Man: I hope it’s not Jehovah’s Witnesses.
- Ye Thuza: Good morning, kind sir. Do you have time to talk about our savior, Aeris Gainsborough?
- Man: Actually, yes!
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Cringe. But ill take it..
I am not sure what is going on in all of those frames, but Doc Hayer seems to be in a rather tight spot at home and might actually prefer sick animals in odd hours now. 🙂
I deadass thought that said Jenova’s witnesses.
I know that’s meant to be the FFVII logo in the last panel, but all I can see as an XIV fan is the Book of the Black Mage…
What’s with the saw?
So Jessie is Mr. Hayer’s wife? Also, get that man on the Cast page!
@ myth buster:
The ultimate Barret cosplay 😛
You can thank Nomura for the ending. This is the man responsible for the Charlie Foxtrot that is Kingdom Hearts. He doesn’t know how to do anything besides write excessively convoluted nonsense. I’m REALLY hoping the rest of the team can rein him in, but I’m not super-confident. I can’t say exactly WHY I’m not confident because it involves major spoilers for the ending. But I have my reasons.
Final fantasy VII related comic & this page has an ad for Final fantasi VII remake.
Does it mean anything?
Ye Thuza appears to be carrying a picture of her son with her. As a religious icon.
All ye who are lost, take heart.
Ye shall find your way again.
Have faith. Change and similarity will weave together, in ways you cannot imagine. You will know and not know, at once. And you will find joy in the final answer.
Just don’t expect to use a Phoenix Down.
Aerith* Aeris was a translation error lol.
Must be one of the wridos who still has hope. Just cause the ending was insane I don’t think it just immediately means they’ll go do something completely different. I’m sure they’ll STILL have all the main story beats of the OG VII, just exactly 1:1….which is basically what Remake already did just that it wasn’t part of the narrative itself until the last mins.
I dunno, I get it. Everyone is afraid of Nomura, but he is not the only writer and I feel people are just going into panic mode WAY too quickly.
@ Jack:
Jessie is the girl on TV in the first panel, a side character in FF7. (Her full name is Jessie Rasberry, from what I’ve heard)
About the Bizarre swerve… It’s Japan’s media trends.
I’ve observed that for redos of a franchise (and not sequels, prequels, etc), a LARGE chunk of every single remake will always go in a completely different direction from the original. Sometimes the remake will even up-end the original’s message just to be “different”.
A different director wanting to put his “mark” on the franchise?
I can’t play Remake until it comes to PC, but from what I’ve gathered from google, it reminds me a bit of the Evangelion Remakes. Starting off mostly faithful to the original, then swings wildly off on it’s own course.
@ myth buster:
Spoilers for Final Fantasy 7 and the next dozen parts of the remake.
Barret Wallace lost his hand before the events of Final Fantasy 7 and had a gun grafted onto his arm in its place in order to wage his personal war against the people who took his family, his best friend and his hand.
He has a tragic backstory. Just like Aeris, and Cloud, and Nanaki, and Tifa, and Vincent, and Cid, and Yuffie, and Cait Sith. Yes, even Cait Sith.
@ kawaiipikachu:
kawaiipikachu wrote:
Yes. It means that the algorithm does a good job at showing context-relevant ads.
Because there Was a bit with Jenova’s witnesses made:
https://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=199
Nomura is mostly to blame as the director, but he’s not alone. The Square that exists today is NOT the Squaresoft that was worth falling in love with. Even the members that worked on the original game have lost their touch after 23 years. Today’s Square is for the weebs, and they clearly don’t care about being faithful or even respectful to their foundations.
Look at what has happened to Rare, Blizzard, Konami, Sega, Bioware. There’s a certain level of success that corrupts people. Square’s been bad for decades. I’d say look at what they’ve done again and again totheir best games: FF5, 6, and Chrono Trigger, but most of their fans have never even played those games. Everyone that still likes Square started at or after 7. That level of success changed them. Hate to say it, but 7 was the beginning of the path that has led to 7R. The guy that designed Cloud is the reason we have (physically) grown men LARPing about saving Kairi from “The Darkness” in open parking lots. The guy who worked on 7’s cinematics got to burn funding on an entire trilogy about his cardboard waifu (13). The guy who wrote a lot of the detail in 7 went on to write most of Kingdom Hearts, 8, 10, 13, and 15 (but not 9 or 12, hmmm…).
But you know who wrote the original story they all had to flesh out? Sakaguchi. The OG. The Director of the first 5 games and original writer of 6 and 7. The scenario writer of 9. The man who left Square in 2004 and proved he could take his talents anywhere by writing Lost Odyssey.
Now he works on mobile games while his former pupils drag his legacy through the mud.
Ignorance truly is bliss.
That dialogue on the bridge before the party enters the realm of magical bs is so terrible, I have no idea why no one went up to the writers and slapped them on the face. If you remove the faces, the names and the voices, you would have a hard time figuring out who is saying what and how many people there are.
FFXIV is where it’s at when it comes to storytelling. There’s a reason why people are praising Shadowbringers. Whether they can keep it up or fail terribly during the next expansion remains to be seen, but it has been one of the high points of the entire franchise. It’s just a shame the game requires such an immense time commitment.
I have a hard time believing that Ye Thuza would call her Aeris rather than Aerith. As a massive FF7 fan she would surely have known the correct name 😉
It’s fine to feel lost after the ending. That was the point. The interviews with staff have, from the start, said they found just doing a regular remake to be pointless, and they want to tell a new story with new twists to capture the ENERGY of FF7 for both new and old players, not just do a hollow remake with new age graphics. Besides, people have been asking for years for ways to save Aerith and Zack and many others from their fate, and when the remake delivers on this stuff those same people complain that too much is being changed? Shove off.
Besides, Square announced that Nomura was directing the game before he even knew the game got greenlit. He found out by watching the E3 trailer that told everyone else he was directing the game. As far as I’m concerned, Square wrote him a blank check and told him he could do whatever he wanted with the FF7 name. If he wants to Nomura’s Wild Ride it up then he’s well within rights to do so, and anybody that disagrees is disagreeing with Square directly because it’s their dumb decision making that got us here.
I feel like I’m not this comics target audience anymore. Between the weird japanese cat-girls and now the Final Fantasy stuff… I’m just lost… adrift at sea…
@ Dave:
I’d think most fans of Evangelion would prefer a remake to wildly swing off on its own course towards the end. That was one messed up ending, if you ask me.
“Hello sir, do you have time to talk about our true savior Sephiroth?”
Damn Jenova’s Witnesses.
@ Brett P Bellmore:
Although it would be nice if they actually completed it.
Mind you, Evangelion is a special beast, and not just because of the ending. It’s a deconstruction, as well as a pioneer. It shows what anime can be like if it doesn’t have 13 year olds as its target demographic. But in a big way, it makes it a product of its time. Just like the original Quake’s 3D graphics were impressive only because there were no other full 3D games with textures at the time, the original Evangelion loses much of its impact once many other series followed suite, by not simply being about teenagers effortlessly saving the world.
If the Evangelion remake tried to be exactly the same, it would just feel dated. The bar has been raised, and now, you need at least 3 or 4 separate conspiracies and/or tragic backstories to make an anime plot interesting.
Threadnaught wrote:
So basically they ripped off the idea of Ash’s chainsaw arm from The Evil Dead. And there’s an evil book too. Got it. Do the characters also fight undead, and have body parts possessed by them?
I assume the first panel is meant to be funny in context. Is Cloud generally oblivious to the needs or suffering of others? Or is it meant to show the speaker’s unusual point of view?
Can we get back to Richard now? Please?
@ Jim R:
Yep. From her dad’s ID card, her last name is Raspberry. Odd choice.
@ Agarax:
They changed Jessie’s character from being a couple lines of dialogue to being _terribly_ flirty, and a much bigger part of the story (I can only imagine that this was because they wanted to turn her death at the plate into an “Aerith” moment, emotionally speaking, for what was once just the first act).
Cloud, being the generally disinterested stooge he is, played along to zero extent.
@ SlugFiller:
If you wanted to be totally off the wall, maybe they could do the remake as a Children of an Elder God anime. That was one rocking storyline, and the dark came naturally, it didn’t seem imposed.
I apologize, I am already a member of Jenova’s Witness
https://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=199
Greedo wrote:
As both Richard and Hitomi are in the tags, I presume it is Hitomi we see in the first frame, and Richard’s arm and leg ? If so, Hitomi has changed her cloths – no maid dress and no cat ears but a rather cute short shirt. And given the nature of Jessie’s thirst I think Hitomi’s remark is far from innocent.
Aerith*. It’s been made abundantly clear, numerous times, that that is the intended translation.
Breja wrote:
Me, too. This whole Japanese anime/game/universe baffles me. And my daughter-in-law works for Riot!
@ SidH013:
Yeah seemed like an easily missed opportunity…
My current hypothesis is that they wanted some badass boss battle at the end of the game and couldn’t completely merge it in with the original story, so they added something that sorta half made sense, and hopefully continue the next game with the original story again
My Wife’s a Jehovah’s Witness, I showed her this & she got a laugh out of it
@ Jim R:
As a non-FF player, thank you! I guess Mrs. Hayer will remain anonymous.
The ending is supposed to set us up for some changes in the story, since they have to shake things up a bit. A simple retelling of the same story would please only a few fans, storytelling and games have advanced in the last 20+ years. WIth those wraiths trying to keep the original story, but Aerith, Sephiroth and others trying to change things for their advantage.
I am quite sure that Aerith for example would love to not get kebabed like in 1997, and i personally like that they flesh out everybody more, like Biggs, Wedge and Jessie getting more screentime and personality.
They were rather bland and uninteresting sidecharacters in the original. Now, when/if they really croak you will feel.
Same goes for Aerith … i remember back in 98 readng a guide where the writer stated you should use her as little as possible and not get invested in her since she would be killed.
Now we old-schoolers, who know the game by heart, will be just as excited to see how things will unfold like a newcomer.
I’ve never played any installments of FF.
I was expecting to see more virus/pandemics related stripes since I picked up the series when I left it back in november of the last year.
Worry not, we don’t go door to door-witnessing during these pandemic times. 😛
I don’t know nearly enough about the game specifically, nor even the franchise, to forge an opinion. But the whole “several chapters that went so well and then a ruined finale” thing, makes me think crunchtimes.
@ Agarax:
There are undead in the game, but they’re not the focus of either the game or Barret’s vengeful campaign of terrorism. And the only books I can think of are the level 4 Limit Break manuals, which are useful to the heroes.
The thirsty girl is Jessie, Jessie is thirsty for Cloud’s body and he won’t let her have it. A man also has the right to say “no”. Jessie isn’t suffering just because he won’t consent.
@ Marteri:
His girlfriend wants to graft a grenade launcher to his soon-to-be-amputated stump just like Barrett. I suppose it’s an acceptable substitute for Barrett’s gattling gun.