[1173] Fan Theories
└ posted on Monday, 27 April 2020, by Novil
The two Reddit posts that build the foundation of this strip:
- Ye Thuza: The ending of Final Fantasy VII Remake was obviously poorly executed. But in the last days, some exciting fan theories have popped up. In particular, there’s evidence that Aeris knows the whole story of the original game and is now trying to prevent the events from occurring.
- Ye Thuza: Why, you may ask…
- Ye Thuza: Well, because we all might have misinterpreted the ending of the original game with Red XIII running towards an overgrown Midgard. It may well be that mankind hasn’t become one with nature, but that it has perished! Just as Bugenhagen suggested!
- Ye Thuza: What do you think? Will Square be able to give an old story an exciting new twist that will captivate old and new players alike? Or will it turn out to just be one of Nomura’s usual overcomplicated and ultimately meaningless stunts?
- Woman: Final Fantasy, is that something like Fortnite?
- Baby: Brabel-dabeldu.
- T-shirt: Jenova’s Witness
- Ye Thuza: The ignorance of some people is just mind-boggling.
- David: You’d think nobody would be talking about anything else!
![[1173] Fan Theories](/comics/2020-04-27-1173-fan-theories.png "[1173] Fan Theories")
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I’ve no problem with Sandra and Woo becoming a gaming comic, but could you at least throw in some sociopathic humour like Penny Arcade or some fanservice like Nerf Now? [/joking]
I second Alice’s request for (more) fanservice.
Also:
“is that something like _Fortnite?”_
……….
“Hush, little one. Mommy gonna take a long nap after Miss Ye makes a bitch bite the curb. Let’s get you some candy and to an orphanage.”
Heh, a gamer joke.
I’m not a gamer, so I don’t get it.
i´m kinda curious why david is wearing that shirt – i doubt they´re really jehova´s witnesses – maybe to explain the manic preaching his wife is doing?
@ Peya Luna:
You misread the shirt. It’s not “Jehova’s Witness,” it’s “JENOVA’s Witness.” Jenova being Sephiroth’s “mother” in the game.
@ Peya Luna:
Not Jehova, Jenova. It’s a character in Final Fantasy 7.
FORTNI- *groan* Calm down, me, it’s just a fictional character in a webcomic who’s designed to be ignorant, it’s nothing to actually get triggered about…
Anyway, yeah, after taking about a week to melt the ending and chatting it out with some fellow fans about the story and where it could be headed from now on, I’m at the very least far more intrigued that I am bitter about it… please don’t fuck this up, Nojima. (‘Cuz, honestly now, people, Nojima is the scenario writer; he’s the guy you SHOULD be angry with in this case, NOT Nomura.)
Huh. Interesting theory.
If true though, then that would make it the…what, third game in recent years to pull the “Character revisits the old story knowing what will happen and trying to change it” thing?
Mortal Kombat 10 did it.
Soul Calibur 6 did it with Cassandra
Sonic Mania and Generations KIND of did it, though not the same way.
“Ma’am, this is an arby’s”
Fun as always. I like the character Ye-Thuza and the hint to the JW, but I’m not even a fan or connoisseur of any Final Fantasy, I want Hitomi back.
@ WEF:
Thanks, but when you must explain a joke, there is no joke.
I was thrilled about seeing where things where heading with Hitomi and Richard. Having this series popping up just seems like a random ranting about some game ending.
@ NoFFVIIFAN:
He didn’t explain the joke, you either didn’t play the game or have bad eyesight, both are a “you” problem.
You’ve got a Nomura hate-boner you might want to get looked at…
Aslund wrote:
So was I, but I think this is Novil’s way of playing with the shippers while letting some steam off at the same time. 🙂
Ah, yes, Jenova’s Witness… I remember when VG Cats pioneered that phrase, aeons ago.
Good to see some jokes don’t age…
I’m not even reading the Final Fantasy ones beyond the first panel anymore. And after this it will probably be back to the cat-maid stuff… >sigh<. I know, I know – free web comic, I shouldn't complain, the author has every right to write about whatever he feels like. I acknowledge all that. But still, I can miss Sandra, Woo, Larisa, Landon and humor that I could actually get.
I’m hoping for the former, but I’m expecting the latter.
You keep talking about the ending to a game that just came out this month and some people (myself included) haven’t finished. I played the original, but you’re obviously talking about the new one, and if feels like it’s verging on spoiler territory, so… may I respectfully ask you to hold on for a while, give us slow people (or people who don’t actually have too much time to play games) the chance to actually get to the ending before having it halfway spoiled?
@ Tomas:
And I’d like to see Woo again at some point…
FF7 was always an overrated story. There were better then, there are certainly better now.
@ NoFFVIIFAN:
NoDDVIIFAN got it right! 🙂
I think “brabel-dabeldu” is a perfect summation of everything I’ve read and heard from the dedicated fans of Final Fantasy VIII Remastered.
Harrow wrote:
I concur! The infant’s inside is incredible.
That was supposed to be ‘insight’!
The thing is, that theory has some contextual weight behind it.
In the Kingdom Hearts franchise which is…. basically Nomura’s baby, there’s a little known game called “Kingdom Hearts X(Cross)”
Spoilers for this weird browser/mobile game.
The first play through is revealed to have been a dream by the protagonist, you, as a reoccurring memory that you have every time you fall asleep.
You then have people who are trying to recreate the world AFTER the cataclysm of the first Act/ first game (it’s complicated), while also trying to prevent things from happening.
That theory would hold here as well.
You have a dream/vision of the future, and you’re trying to prevent it by changing things.
Given the last arc, a reply on the line of “Final Fantasy, is that the new 50 Shades thing?” would be on mark too.
I really should play that game, before I continue to read that comic, shouldn’t I?
Comparing ANYTHING to Fortnite is heresy of the highest caliber
Breja wrote:
Right. The author has the right to publish as his heart desires. Likewise we have the right to spend our reading time where we desire. And there are thousands of free webcomics competing for our time.
My time is not for gamer comics. S&W was not at the top of my list but it was enjoyable. Too bad if it degenerates into a gamer strip.
No spoilers! Bad!
Does this remake run deeper with the FFX connection?
MrTermin8r wrote:
Fortnite? It is it something like Dungeon Master?
If this is supposed to be Final Fantasy, why are there so many sequels? Shouldn’t the first one also been the Final one? I mean, other than to milk a cash cow as far as it will go?
It’s not ignorance, it’s apathy.
Or was that meant to be the joke, i.e. that some people are so obsessed with obscure Japanese comics and games they don’t understand that most people simply aren’t interested in them?
To be honest, my only acquaintance with Final Fantasy is some Evanescence fan videos and that “The Spirits Within” movie. (Nice CGI, predictable plot.) Haven’t seen the other movies.
But, hey, I’m still finding this funny, so whatever.
Sorry guys, this arc is leaving me flat. It’s dragging on like molasses in winter. Just my opinion but I miss when Sandra and Woo was actually about Sandra and Woo.
Robin Šebelová wrote:
Dungeon Master? Is that something like Hunt the Wumpus?
@ David Nuttall:
I’ve heard that when Squaresoft was developing the first Final Fantasy, they were in dire financial straits. They essentially told all the employees to work like this is the last video game the company would make, since it would be unless it was wildly successful. When they made it they thought it would be their final fantasy. Of course after it became successful, they had to keep the brand.
Been reading this comic for years, and am making my first ever comment to say I have a Jenova’s Witness t-shirt! The looks I get…
@ Peya Luna:
or, if you wear that you ensure that everyone keeps far away from you, perfect way to honor chinavirus guidelines at that.
I am both enjoying all the FF7 theme of these strips, and hoping for not TOO many spoilers… since I’m waiting on the hinted-at release to other platforms in about a year. 🙁
People like Ye Thuza made me want to avoid playing FF7 in the first place. I used to work for Gamestop and we had a regular who was exactly like her, he was a pompous ass who loved FF7, would always talk to us about it, and always made us check if the was a release date for the Remake (this was like a year ago). All of that was fine, but early on with him he asked me if I liked the game and I answered honestly, that I had never played it because it seemed a little overhyped and the story had been spoiled for me, but I loved over games in the franchise like VI, IX, and X. He proceeded to complain about me to my manager and asked her to fire me, and then called corporate trying to get me fired. He even came in one day and muttered to another coworker about how he was ‘surprised I was still working there’. Since then any time he walked in my manager would just ask me to hang out in the back until he left, so we could just avoid each other.
That being said I still plan on playing FF7R, but I’m going to wait for the price to drop.
I like how depending on your point of view either of the two characters of this comic is depicting a relatable situation.
Either the feeling of sharing your passion with someone else only to hear how utterly ignorant they are about the whole thing or the feeling of listening to someone talk on and on about something unimportant you don’t really care about and their obsessiveness played for laughs.
@ Warriornate:
I heard something kinda similar, except it was all about the main creator, Hironobu Sakaguchi. He was in college when he was asked to join Squaresoft, but the first game he made for them flopped. He decided to make one last game before quitting and going back to college, naming it “Final Fantasy” because he thought it would be his final game, but it turned out to be a huge success.
@ David Nuttall:
David Nuttall wrote:
The first one was going to be the company’s final game, because they were at risk of going under. Ironically, the game did very well, and they remained in business, so they now have a series that’s ironically called “Final Fantasy.”
“It may well be that mankind hasn’t become one with nature, but that it has perished!”
Is that… Is that the general consensus on what that ending meant? I had ALWAYS just assumed that humanity was gone, or at least severely reduced in number, and that the world had been reclaimed by nature. My real question with that ending was: Where did the extra Nanaki-lions come from?! Wasn’t he supposed to be the last of his kind? Was Hojo right and they really CAN breed with humans?!
I like his shirt Jenova’s Witness though. LOL
Am I the only one that felt horribly dirty after reading the F-word in this comic? Like I had been covered in faeces.
I always took the ending of the original to be that humanity had perished. That the world had deemed humanity unworthy of saving against the greater need to repair itself. There’s a LOT of hints to that effect in the original’s story and dialogue near the end.
But of course if that were the case, Advent Children couldn’t happen. Whether that means the ending isn’t as bleak as it seemed or whether it means Square just retconned the ending so they could have room to make a sequel is up for discussion.
(I’m camp retcon)