Please take a moment and appreciate how well Powree drew Zoey’s swings in the first two panels.
- Opponent: That’s not fair!
- Referee: Game, Miss Irvine.
- Zoey: The weak fear the double-sided forehand!
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![[1213] Forehand](/comics/2020-09-29-1213-forehand.png "[1213] Forehand")
[1213] Forehand
└ posted on Tuesday, 29 September 2020, by Novil
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playing with both hands I see!
wouldn’t it have made more sense for hit the ball to the left with her right hand, and to the right with her left hand? I haven’t played tennis in YEARS but logically it seems like that would be the case?
Pig Lota wrote:
Zoey can play a right-handed forehand and a left-handed forehand. She can also play a normal backhand on the left side. But when the opponents ball is weak and she has enough time to switch the grip, her left-handed forehand is significantly better than her backhand.
Confusing your opponent by switching hands mid-game is fun. I did it in badminton for a time.
That is some wicked spin on the left.
@ Pig Lota:
I think that’s why her opponent was caught out and wrongfooted. She expected Zoey’s ball to go the other way based on how she set up the stroke.
Dang, I never thought how being “AMBIE” could effect tennis.
It’s effect in baseball is well known.
and it is indeed fair…
because it’s using an available skill that ‘could’ be available to everyone.
Cue Zoey’s mentor:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MovieDetails/comments/7s84eb/in_the_princess_bride_inigo_uses_a_righthanded/
@ Valkeiper2020:
Try it in fencing. You can’t switch hands in the middle of a bout unless there’s an injury (and the gear allows for it), but between bouts? Sure.
Had a teammate one time who faced a particular opponent right handed in the pool round, then decided to go left handed when he got the same guy in the direct elimination round.
They report to the strip and hook up….and only THEN does the other guy see that my friend is now left-handed.
“Weren’t you just…? Ahhhh, shit.”
His entire game plan out the window!
Yet in poker or tiddlywinks, there is no obvious advantage
I can do that as well, although it does not help me win more.
In Go, i sometimes see very small kids doing that if they play the big board: the other corner is so far away that they need to use the hand that is closer to it in order to reach it. Very cute and all fun and games, until one of these little kids is thoroughly defeating you. 😀
I once had to fence a had to fence a round left handed due to equipment shortage. I let my student use my right handed foils, leaving only the lefties for me. The result was as you would expect. Some people are right or legft dominant; I am left incompetent. But I got to use the line “I know something you don’t know…”
@ sam:
SKy wrote:
It’s fun, but don’t forget to say: “There is something you don’t know. I am not left-handed!”
Ratfox wrote:
The Princess Bride 😉
So, she swings both ways?
Nobody wrote:
I remember I once played chess with some random little kid and it took my all to finish 2:1. Basically, if you meet an unusually young person playing go or chess, it means they are really into it and train heavily. In short: beware the cute ones.
I guess you could also achieve the effect of panel 2 with a backhand slice, but hey, ambidextrous.
So what fall is this pride setting Zoe up for?
@ mario agirre:
The joke behind the joke.
@ SKy:
I do it with my wife in badminton. But it’s just to trade off shoulders, I’ve got arthritis.
Are there any professionals who switch hands in the middle of a game? I’ve never heard of it, and even if you are ambidextrous it seems like it would be difficult to pull off in the heat of play.
Great drawing, Poweree!
I wonder if Larissa is going to be a teen parent? She won’t make it past 35 as a human.
Imagine Zoey being an aunt to Larissa’s kid
It’s interesting that while elements of the game are similar, racquetball, unlike tennis, does not allow for hand switching during a rally. Switching hands in racquetball results in a loss of the rally.
A double-forehand style in racquetball would be pretty tough to play against.
@ Pig Lota:
You usually hit the ball the opposite direction from the hand you’re using, ya! But if you smash it downward in the same direction as the hand you’re using, it hits the court much faster~
@ Lookfar:
I can barely MOVE left handed, let alone fence. I fence sabre, so you can guess how ugly THAT is!
I once had an uncle do this in baseball, and with similar results. I don’t remember if he was the pitcher or the batter, but the guy on the other end changed hands, and so my uncle followed suit. The other guy’s parent or coach tried to argue it wasn’t allowed but the ump set them straight.
At a guess, I’d assume my uncle was the pitcher, since switch-hitters are common enough, but having access to a second glove isn’t.
And painful for your opponent.
I was faculty adviser / coach for our club, so at least I would occasionally fence leftie with my students just to give them experience with facing a left-handed opponent.
@ Sam:
@ Novil:
This is also how I play tennis.
I just wasn’t very good.
I did have this said of me once though, I replied “if you wanna act like a girl about it my sister can stand in for me and whup you. She only uses a regular forehand.”
I was not so nice. Maybe similar to Zoey in many ways.
Glad to have (hopefully) gotten better
@ SeanR:
In baseball I’m pretty sure the hitter can’t switch mid-at-bat, unless the other team changes pitchers. I never heard of a pitcher trying it.
Valkeiper2020 wrote:
Wish I had you around back when ;)>
Wish I could edit previous comment.
jb wrote:
No, it isn’t. You already bring it into your other hand. It’s slightly harder than just using a regular backhand though, which is why no one does this with money on the line.
I never made it past NJTL, however.
Sorry, last one before someone else.
I used to play like that. I joined the tennis team with a broken dominant thumb and wrist, and so learned to play ambidextrous, after a year I found that if I was playing doubles I could hammer easily with either hand at the net. It really screwed with or opponents and got me hit with a rules check (which got over turned because apparently there was a pro who would switch hands after each serve). It’s terrifying to see someone with that much reach.
All the fencing I ever did was for livestock containment.
Can confirm that I’m no good lefthanded with pliers and hammers. 🙂
@ Kfish:
It would be easy enough if you did it immediately after your own shot, but it seems to me that in order to be useful you’d need to delay switching until you saw where your opponent’s return was headed, so you knew which hand you wanted to use. So you’d have to do it very fast, and possibly on the run. That’s what sounds hard!
This reminds me of other comics.
The ones with cute girls in bikini
@ jb:
It wouldn’t be that difficult if you don’t change your grip (just let go with the hand you’re not using), but that means either your right or left-handed shots would be made while gripping the racquet near the middle of the handle.
At first read I thought I was looking at a visual metaphor for her swinging both ways…
@ Pig Lota:
it would make sense which is why the opponent feels cheated when expectations were subverted.
@ SeanR:
As I understand it, while you can switch hands over the course of a game, a single at-bat must be done all from the same side. In other words, even a switch hitter can’t change hands in the middle of an at-bat, but may change from at-bat to at-bat.
@ Lookfar:
Not painful for my opponents at all…I could barely put my blade on them left-handed!
Now…painful to WATCH me go left…that I’ll agree with!
Princess of Tennis!
@ mario agirre:
(rimshot)
I am idly wondering which eye of hers is dominant.
There was a pro player on the women’s circuit a dozen years ago that would use double-handed backhands on ALL of her returns. She would run around the court all day but her shots were consistently faster and stronger than the other players.
https://princeoftennis.fandom.com/wiki/Nit%C5%8Dry%C5%AB
jb wrote:
Baseball has lots of them.
They’re called “switch-hitters”
Pig Lota wrote:
Not really, no. Any semi-competent player would be able to hit the ball to either side with a forehand.
She’s hitting with her right or left hand based on where the opponent hit the ball relative to her, not based on where she wants to put the ball. And she’s hitting the ball to the right or left side based on what her opponent is doing, not based on which hand she’s hitting with.
As someone that has watched his fair share of tennis since circa 2005, I feel that the way Zoey’s & the other girl’s (IDK her name, sue me) skirts didn’t flap or move is somewhat sus. Idk, I’m just saying that that wouldn’t happen in real life 🤷♂️
@ David C:
No, even if the pitcher gets changed mid at-bat (the pitcher getting injured), the batter has to continue batting in the side he had opted to bat at prior to the 1st pitch.
Same as an ambidextrous pitcher, he can’t changed the pitching arm he uses mid at-bat, not even if the batter gets injured & he gets replaced.