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Reminds me of Neverwinter Nights.
By the way, so much for the years of training. In a few moments all the students will get F- for after school performence.
@ Landbark:
Yeah, well, these are kids. Skill comes from life experience, as anyone entering the workforce knows. Or, think of it as if they had just graduated from West Point Academy, and then a bunch of Al Qaeda drop into their graduation celebration. Most of these kids are unarmed, and the wizards are all like “What the what?”. Let’s see if the situation can be brought under control.
Where is the counter (response)? Hopefully, on Tuesday, the remnants can organize and drive off this force of invaders (Electric Blade Deflection might be helpful in a crisis like this! Or Silent Wall)
@ HardWearJunkie:
Yeah, but the poor girl has never had a real combat situation. AND we’ve seen she can get a little nervous under combat pressure. Here’s hoping she rocks the house, though!
wow, ambushed with no preparation and being slaughtered like lambs. Why is it that evil always has the annoying teleporting mastery?
I think efficiency is achieved thanks to utter LACK of care how the good guys perceive you… No issues with “dishonor” about attacking from behind, teleporting in the middle of students making any retalitory spell having risk of hitting your own… while one can spray spray spells all around.
Attacks have a singulat point- do enough damage in any way imaginable. And well such way of attack usualy spouts panic and fear… in other way of saying it- terror. It is efficient and sucesfull. But well… it has one flaw… you need to keep some people alive to spread the fear and panic.
Utter inefficienty of social dresses and suits. Reminds me of Boba Fett in one of the SW books… even highest level diplomatic meeting conducted in beskargem armor. (Rare mandalorian metal that takes very long time to slice with lightsabers)
I’m not sure about the guys in the upper right panel, but so far all other victims were part of the tutors and jury. This slaughter is not targeting the students, yet. I think they’re aiming first at who they percieve as prime threat.
They have already done that… first wave has attacked teachers with enchanted daggers probably specificaly designed to take those high priority target…
When that was more or less accomplished less specialized force has materialized among students and executed far less precise mayhem against those who are not that capable of defending themselves.
I Think Hel would be able to block the fireball spray in last picture quite easily
@ Paeris Kiran:
panel up-left and middle panel : teachers too. We saw them both answering to Hel’s question regarding if anyone knew the Wave Shield could destroy the fabric of the Bluestream. As of panel down-left, it’s the one that was standing next to hel in previous page.
AND there are other teachers we’ve yet to see during the attack, like the sword experts.
So no, they’re not done yet, but the chaos team had to start anyway its part to maintain panic like you said, otherwise the student could have attacked back at the assassin strike team.
It´s immediate use at the moment would wipe out both sides… while I do have spell in my DnD disposal which works like a fusion bomb its meaningful use is limited to destruction of fleets, armies and cities however. Utterly useless in close combat.
I may have spoke about it here… imagine an miniature one way portal from the centre of sun… gravitic presure will force a rather small amount of superdense and superhot hydrogen plasma through portal which immediately collapses. If continues to fuse atoms while at same time without pressure of entire star mass it starts to expand. Obliderating everything in immediate area.
But it took lot of skillpoints in (knowledge: astronomy) to develop
@ Paeris Kiran:
Actually, if you know of a defense spell capable of protecting you from the blast, or better regenerate automatically the damage caused to you by the blast, you can use a massive destruction spell at point blank range no problem.
This strategy has even been used on recent event in 2 universes : Naruto’s Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara destroys the entire battlefield he’s in using a meteor crash, knowing his Edo Tensei body will reassemble itself anyway. And Wither 2′s villain Lethod used a frost grenade to turn King Demaved’s entire ship into an ice cube, casting a protective sign first so as not to be affected since he was onboard. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwUAv-SSZqw
Everything in kilometre area is instantly vaporized… I once calculated it, just few cubic centimetres from the centre of our Sun would simply vaporize anything in kilometre radius. Compared to that most powerful nuke on earth is a small firework. And well good luck rebuilding a body atom by atom… Yeah… Shield against heat and light could work… but sheer amount of power required…
@ Paeris Kiran:
I was not talking about science-only methods, but think of esper Accelerator’s ability to constantly and effortlessly rewrite any vector instantanously in Toaru Majutsu no Index and you have someone that can actually survive even being right in the middle of the sun. :p
That spray-spell looks like the Energy Balls spell that Ars so carelessly triggered before, really.
As for the cleanup, it’s going to be difficult. And wonder if anyone brought an actual sword, or if the kids only have dress swords there.
Don’t know if I’d want to play any of the Red side folks, even in a game. It’d mean I’d be up against Lilith…
And why would Redmages do this? Power, and maybe prestige. But it does take special kind to go that far to follow a God of Annihilation. But if you start with very little, well, getting on the side that promises you everything, or even a chance to strike back at those who you perceive have taken everything you want, it can be very tempting offer.
I don’t understand, why the authorities at the academy didn’t anticipate the possibility of such an attack and put lots and lots of “sentinel spells” around the place? Such a spell would work like a sensor. Once somebody is casting a certain type of spell the “sensor” informs its caster about the intrusion. And one can also cast sensor spells to detect movement in restricted areas.
If an intruder casts a counter-spell to disable a sensor, others sensors will be activated,because all the sensors would depend on each other. Therefore an intruder had to deactive all sensors at the same time. Unfortunately this would create such a strong ripple in the bluestream that this would warn the spellcaster (“sensor-owners”) about the approaching danger as well.
I don’t understand, why the authorities of the academy failed to implement such an obvious measure of security to prevent surprise attacks.
@ Lorien:
Only one problem : Bluestream and Redstream are independant. A Bluestream-based sensor spell most likely cannot sense Redstream-based cloaking spells.
@ TLein:
Red magi are whorshippers of Bhaal, god of Oblivion, Destruction and Void. That makes Bhaal the polar opposite of Gaia. With such description, i suppose they can have a pletora of reasons for this slaughter. And we have too few elements to figure out if they have a real masterplan in motion.
@ Plaid Wolf:
Actually your fog spell will increase the panic rather than do anything good. Not to mention IF the attackers don’t find it convenient, a basic wind spell will deal with it.
The response will start in a page or 2 anyway, just be patient. :p
I don’t understand, why the authorities at the academy didn’t anticipate the possibility of such an attack
It´s likely they did but it is rather impossible to be prepared for every avenue of attack… you can prevent teleportation, portals, phaseshifting, plane shifting, invisibility…
But to make truly impervious defence agains magic you would actualy have to shut magic down completly.
ok, maybe not an atom bomb….how about Shabon Spray? Cover the room with fog and allow everyone a chance to organize some kind of response!
Given that attackers have effectively wiped out any possible chain of command (teachers)… except for Hel all hits seem immediately lethal. (the last one- stab into liver, two before- cut up lung and bones, maybe damaged hearth) and dagger which impaled Hel was definitely enchanted/imbued or simply spell was channeled through it.
And it seems that attackers now have time to cause mayhem among studens completly randombly who seem incapable of mustering any form of defence. Perhaps Faye will get some people around… but if there is smoke they wont find each other…
Smartest thing students can do now is to get out of there and well take Hel with them since he is the only one target who given what we know may be yet healed in time.
@ Paeris Kiran: TL;DR: the only effective way to use mass teleporting like that would be a sneak attack. Good guys are all about not using cheapshot tactics. Bad guys, on the other hand, aren’t.
Given if efficiency = succes/price ratio I think cheaper it is the better… and it has already been succesful beyond any hope of competition on part of “good guys “
@ Paeris Kiran:
I think that a hall full of dead bodies without any sign of people having fought back would spread terror just fine
without one survivor whispering “the horror… the horror…”
@ Darth Killer:
Like I said, it takes plenty of something to follow a God named like that (A Name to Run Away From, Fast/Doubletime).
But if one doesn’t HAVE much of anything, then… the offer will be more tempting. In world where nearly everyone can at least touch magic, being somehow blocked from the Bluestream would make the Redstream extremely tempting, I would believe.
Reminds me of Neverwinter Nights.
By the way, so much for the years of training. In a few moments all the students will get F- for after school performence.
@ Landbark:
Yeah, well, these are kids. Skill comes from life experience, as anyone entering the workforce knows. Or, think of it as if they had just graduated from West Point Academy, and then a bunch of Al Qaeda drop into their graduation celebration. Most of these kids are unarmed, and the wizards are all like “What the what?”. Let’s see if the situation can be brought under control.
So, way to drop in a huge plot turn. I wasn’t expecting this at all!
Talk about a Pearl Harbor job…..
Where is the counter (response)? Hopefully, on Tuesday, the remnants can organize and drive off this force of invaders (Electric Blade Deflection might be helpful in a crisis like this! Or Silent Wall)
Ahem, I think they have done enough man slaughter, fight already!
Okay, Lilith. Time to bring the pain!
Oh Noes!
I suppose this is why the page titles has been “The Red Hall”
Don’t you hate party crashers?
When this gets made into a videogame, I want the ability to roll up a character class for the masked assassin in panel 1.
That is all.
@ HardWearJunkie:
Yeah, but the poor girl has never had a real combat situation. AND we’ve seen she can get a little nervous under combat pressure. Here’s hoping she rocks the house, though!
Has anyone sampled the bisque yet? You have to try it; it’s to die f– oh, you’re all busy. I’ll… check back later.
Panel 5…is that…Richard without a stubble?
For fuck’s sake, did none of these guests arrive at a celebratory ball armed to the teeth? Genre Blindness! They are blind to their genre!
@ 00m:Well, seeing as how red is Bhaal’s color and it’s called the Red Hall, it was fu€ked to begin with.
Gatecrashers these days.
wow, ambushed with no preparation and being slaughtered like lambs. Why is it that evil always has the annoying teleporting mastery?
Kishou wrote:
I think efficiency is achieved thanks to utter LACK of care how the good guys perceive you… No issues with “dishonor” about attacking from behind, teleporting in the middle of students making any retalitory spell having risk of hitting your own… while one can spray spray spells all around.
Attacks have a singulat point- do enough damage in any way imaginable. And well such way of attack usualy spouts panic and fear… in other way of saying it- terror. It is efficient and sucesfull. But well… it has one flaw… you need to keep some people alive to spread the fear and panic.
@ TraderInTown:
Utter inefficienty of social dresses and suits.
Reminds me of Boba Fett in one of the SW books… even highest level diplomatic meeting conducted in beskargem armor. (Rare mandalorian metal that takes very long time to slice with lightsabers)
oh. my. gawd.
I’m not sure about the guys in the upper right panel, but so far all other victims were part of the tutors and jury. This slaughter is not targeting the students, yet. I think they’re aiming first at who they percieve as prime threat.
@ Darth Killer:
They have already done that… first wave has attacked teachers with enchanted daggers probably specificaly designed to take those high priority target…
When that was more or less accomplished less specialized force has materialized among students and executed far less precise mayhem against those who are not that capable of defending themselves.
I Think Hel would be able to block the fireball spray in last picture quite easily
@ Paeris Kiran:
panel up-left and middle panel : teachers too. We saw them both answering to Hel’s question regarding if anyone knew the Wave Shield could destroy the fabric of the Bluestream. As of panel down-left, it’s the one that was standing next to hel in previous page.
AND there are other teachers we’ve yet to see during the attack, like the sword experts.
So no, they’re not done yet, but the chaos team had to start anyway its part to maintain panic like you said, otherwise the student could have attacked back at the assassin strike team.
Daniel Schealler wrote:
This was already a videogame, it was a module for Neverwinter, (1 or 2, can’t remember). Check the background information.
@ Plaid Wolf:
Or ya know perhaps an atom bomb?
Random comment wrote:
It´s immediate use at the moment would wipe out both sides… while I do have spell in my DnD disposal which works like a fusion bomb its meaningful use is limited to destruction of fleets, armies and cities however. Utterly useless in close combat.
I may have spoke about it here… imagine an miniature one way portal from the centre of sun… gravitic presure will force a rather small amount of superdense and superhot hydrogen plasma through portal which immediately collapses. If continues to fuse atoms while at same time without pressure of entire star mass it starts to expand. Obliderating everything in immediate area.
But it took lot of skillpoints in (knowledge: astronomy) to develop
@ Paeris Kiran:
Actually, if you know of a defense spell capable of protecting you from the blast, or better regenerate automatically the damage caused to you by the blast, you can use a massive destruction spell at point blank range no problem.
This strategy has even been used on recent event in 2 universes : Naruto’s Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara destroys the entire battlefield he’s in using a meteor crash, knowing his Edo Tensei body will reassemble itself anyway. And Wither 2′s villain Lethod used a frost grenade to turn King Demaved’s entire ship into an ice cube, casting a protective sign first so as not to be affected since he was onboard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwUAv-SSZqw
@ Darth Killer:
Everything in kilometre area is instantly vaporized… I once calculated it, just few cubic centimetres from the centre of our Sun would simply vaporize anything in kilometre radius. Compared to that most powerful nuke on earth is a small firework. And well good luck rebuilding a body atom by atom… Yeah… Shield against heat and light could work… but sheer amount of power required…
@ Paeris Kiran:
I was not talking about science-only methods, but think of esper Accelerator’s ability to constantly and effortlessly rewrite any vector instantanously in Toaru Majutsu no Index and you have someone that can actually survive even being right in the middle of the sun. :p
As Ars would say: “They will attack the academy!”
Me: … Galaxy Knights, I thought I told you to STOP training assassins!
That spray-spell looks like the Energy Balls spell that Ars so carelessly triggered before, really.
As for the cleanup, it’s going to be difficult. And wonder if anyone brought an actual sword, or if the kids only have dress swords there.
Don’t know if I’d want to play any of the Red side folks, even in a game. It’d mean I’d be up against Lilith…
And why would Redmages do this? Power, and maybe prestige. But it does take special kind to go that far to follow a God of Annihilation. But if you start with very little, well, getting on the side that promises you everything, or even a chance to strike back at those who you perceive have taken everything you want, it can be very tempting offer.
Well this got dark fast.
wow talking about some naruto ideas in here i’m saying you guys stole them just pointing that out <_<
I don’t understand, why the authorities at the academy didn’t anticipate the possibility of such an attack and put lots and lots of “sentinel spells” around the place? Such a spell would work like a sensor. Once somebody is casting a certain type of spell the “sensor” informs its caster about the intrusion. And one can also cast sensor spells to detect movement in restricted areas.
If an intruder casts a counter-spell to disable a sensor, others sensors will be activated,because all the sensors would depend on each other. Therefore an intruder had to deactive all sensors at the same time. Unfortunately this would create such a strong ripple in the bluestream that this would warn the spellcaster (“sensor-owners”) about the approaching danger as well.
I don’t understand, why the authorities of the academy failed to implement such an obvious measure of security to prevent surprise attacks.
@ Lorien:
Only one problem : Bluestream and Redstream are independant. A Bluestream-based sensor spell most likely cannot sense Redstream-based cloaking spells.
@ TLein:
Red magi are whorshippers of Bhaal, god of Oblivion, Destruction and Void. That makes Bhaal the polar opposite of Gaia. With such description, i suppose they can have a pletora of reasons for this slaughter. And we have too few elements to figure out if they have a real masterplan in motion.
@ Lorien:
And, perhaps, complacency…
Red vs. Blue, first round: Red is winning.
ok, maybe not an atom bomb….how about Shabon Spray? Cover the room with fog and allow everyone a chance to organize some kind of response!
@ Plaid Wolf:
Actually your fog spell will increase the panic rather than do anything good. Not to mention IF the attackers don’t find it convenient, a basic wind spell will deal with it.
The response will start in a page or 2 anyway, just be patient. :p
Lorien wrote:
It´s likely they did but it is rather impossible to be prepared for every avenue of attack… you can prevent teleportation, portals, phaseshifting, plane shifting, invisibility…
But to make truly impervious defence agains magic you would actualy have to shut magic down completly.
Plaid Wolf wrote:
Given that attackers have effectively wiped out any possible chain of command (teachers)… except for Hel all hits seem immediately lethal. (the last one- stab into liver, two before- cut up lung and bones, maybe damaged hearth) and dagger which impaled Hel was definitely enchanted/imbued or simply spell was channeled through it.
And it seems that attackers now have time to cause mayhem among studens completly randombly who seem incapable of mustering any form of defence. Perhaps Faye will get some people around… but if there is smoke they wont find each other…
Smartest thing students can do now is to get out of there and well take Hel with them since he is the only one target who given what we know may be yet healed in time.
QUICK every one gather the main heroes together and make them pull a Final Fantasy style Group escape! Forced battles are go.
@ Paeris Kiran: TL;DR: the only effective way to use mass teleporting like that would be a sneak attack. Good guys are all about not using cheapshot tactics. Bad guys, on the other hand, aren’t.
@ AkuMetsu091:
well “cheapshot” is hilarious term anyway…
Given if efficiency = succes/price ratio I think cheaper it is the better… and it has already been succesful beyond any hope of competition on part of “good guys “
DAMMIT ILIAS, GET IN THERE AND TANK!
The epic quest now has a reason to begin!
@ Paeris Kiran:
I think that a hall full of dead bodies without any sign of people having fought back would spread terror just fine
without one survivor whispering “the horror… the horror…”
Though the second one is way more dramatic.
@ ThunderGodSlice:
yep we all know he has a sword somewhere on him. XD
Hm… I wondered if Lilith had gotten pulled into an illusion or something. It appears this could be real…
Then again… we’ll see with the next strips, eh?
@ Darth Killer:
Like I said, it takes plenty of something to follow a God named like that (A Name to Run Away From, Fast/Doubletime).
But if one doesn’t HAVE much of anything, then… the offer will be more tempting. In world where nearly everyone can at least touch magic, being somehow blocked from the Bluestream would make the Redstream extremely tempting, I would believe.