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![[0441] Children today](/comics/2012-12-27-0441-children-today.png "[0441] Children today")
- Sandra: Party at Larisa’s at six thirty.
- Cloud: ’kay.
- Bridget: The children now love parties; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatting in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, and it’s getting worse and worse. They don’t do anything but consume. They contradict their parents, don’t engage in sports, gobble up fast food, listen to rap music, and tyrannize their teachers.
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@ Mike:
which is, to be fair, exactly what we’re all doing, judging Bridget by a single post on her blog. for all we know, a bunch of kids just egged her house, and Cloud reminds her of them. that said… can I help with the egging?
@ Frozenwolf150:
Oh, snap! I was going to post something similar, but you beat me to it! Yours is much better anyway.
Also, I can only wonder how much exercise *she* gets from jumping to so many conclusions.
You know, all of you could be jumping to conclusions. Maybe she’s the one who posted the one comment to Bridget’s blog? Maybe she’s going to write something telling how not all children today are uncouth and disreputable.
The fact that you are doing exactly what you are accusing her of doing is quite funny, actually. Because you don’t yet know all the facts.
a) I’m guessing that one comment she got is not polite.
b) She’s being incredibly and unfairly judgmental.
c) I really like her character design. She’s really cool looking. I think it’s the curly hair and distinguished nose. It’s sort of disappointing that her personality doesn’t seem to be cool.
Eggs aren’t enough guys! You guys aren’t thinking!
It’s a bag-o-doggie doo and a lighter time!
It’s sad to say that I see this kind of assumption based purely on one persons perceptions all of the time. A woman once upset my youngest child rather badly because of her perceptions of my oldest girl based purely on appearances. My oldest girl is into coloring her hair and being an individual, she was out with her younger sister having a day out. My girls are six years apart by the way.
Even though my oldest girl has an alternative appearance she’s always been a responsible, thoughtful, loving and helpful person. She has never been purposely rude to people just because she can be, like this woman was.
This woman saw them sitting together on the bus, and frowned at them the entire time they were talking and engaged in a pleasant conversation. The woman got off the bus at the same stop as my children and my oldest gave her sister a hug, tousled her hair and told her to be good for her grandma who’s house they were in front of.
My oldest girl then headed off down the street to visit one of her friends as my youngest headed for my mother’s door. The woman still frowning towards my older girl asked my youngest if that was her mother, and when my youngest replied that no, it was her older sister the woman promptly turned and said “Well, I hope that you don’t grow up to be anything like her!” and stomped off down the street.
My youngest absolutely adored her big sister and to hear this woman make a statement like that without even knowing her really hurt and ruined an otherwise great day spent out with her sister. People can be so thoughtless and judgmental with how they perceive things that they can’t even consider that the world might be how they think it is.
@ Pashakitty:
Sorry, that was supposed to say “That the world might NOT be how they think it is”.
@ Gamesman:
If you’re talking about shaking off old myths, I think you mean “wiser”, not “smarter”. And, anyway, there’re always some new false preconceptions to replace the old ones.
@ Pillamelai:
Actually no wisdom comes with age (for some of us anyway). And rebelling against the established ideals and BS is not that wise as it can bring some heavy consequences. Kent State being a prime example. Wisdom would tell you you are not immune to them. Part of the strength of youth is it’s total disregard for the problems changing things will cause and the resistance of those set in their ways.
@ Strife:
how you gonna have te yuza and her daughter played by the same person? really?
@ Gamesman:
I don’t know, the kids in my day were pretty dim, I can’t imagine their kids being much better.
Is it me or is she looking over her shoulder like she’s doing something she knows is wrong( or will be seen as mean)?
Oh no I think Sandra and Woo has their first troll. And for those fortunate enough not to know what a troll is: “Someone who is purposefully posting on a forum/message board/site with the sole aim to irritate the regular members”
I’ve got a bad feeling about the next issue…
Sounds about right for the average childless bitter old crone type, to come up with such an article. I like it.
@ Gamesman:
For the most part I agree because children are exposed to technology at an earlier age (like children of my generation was exposed to Apple 2es) they are more use to and adapt better with current tech and environment. Evolution based on environmental surroundings.
Wonder what the comment says…
@ Nilam:i think the quote here is bloggers tend to be stereotypical based on one statement. she doesn’t know who larisa is. she just heard they where going to a party at a girl named larisa’s house
@ Frozenwolf150:
forsaying the truth it almost always certain one is more likely to be sued or silenced for the truth by contrast something false is likely to spread threw the ages like a plague.
@ BarGamer:
yes, kids, let’s egg a blog!!
@irony lol
I believe that the crux of the matter here is the fact that in all of known history, human nature has not changed (and I’m not talking about the group).
It’s simply human nature to want to find someone else to blame for all of one’s problems in life. Blaming young people for lack of manners etc. is just another symptom of this.
Personally, I have experienced both sides of youth; both rude and inconsiderate youth and polite and considerate youth. I regret the existence of the former and rejoice in the existence of the latter.
Thus it was; thus it is; thus it shall be until the end of time, because human nature doesn’t change. :-/
Regardless of the fallacies involved in the arguments of this one individual, whom I choose not to comment on (for reasons), I feel it to be pertinent to note that there are kids that fit this description, they are taught by parents that fit that description, and spout from otherwise broken families as well, and one shouldn’t deny their existence.
@ Gamesman: I’d also like to slide the words “on average” into what you just said. Thheeeerre we go.
P.S. Why does everyone have to hate on rap music? It’s like poetry you don’t get teased by bullies over.
@ Me-me:
Yes I buy that because when I was young (many moons ago ) there were those more neanderthalic youths who saw education (of ANY kind) as a waste of their valuable time.
@ Malcadon:
“plus, the kids nowadays are finding values for their own sake”
What kind of values ? The virtually total lack of engagement, be it political, affective, patriotic or of any other kind ? The ultra-crappy grammar ? The more and more crying lack of manner ?
What kind of values is that ? Hats off for today’s children ? Well, for many of them, it is a big Hell, No.
@ Plasma Mongoose:
Plasma Mongoose! I thought you only post on It’s Walky and Shortpacked. Welcome to this place you…. you…. shape shifting avatar you 😀 cheers!
ForLaughter wrote:
Me too. Her character design reminds me of Disney’s Hercules animated movie. They depict the Greek women with well defined cheekbone, distinctive nose and curly hair. She’s quite a beauty I can fall for but her personality/attitude suck.
Wait…..
Greek woman….
Socrates….
Oh I see what you guys did there!
@ Pashakitty:
Ouch. sorry to hear that Pashakitty. I always try to be more tolerate to others but I know there are several people out there who judge others solely based on the external look. I say you, your sister and your family be proud and held your head straight.
Mac Johnson wrote:
Well, it’s common that cartoon/anime voice actors voice two different characters in a series. Because it’s cheaper and the voice actor is skilled enough to speak with two (or more) different tones/dialects.
Melkior wrote:
THIS!
There’s always good youth and bad youth no matter what the era.
I remember talking with someone from US who experiencing the era when people blame comic books corrupting their youth. It was so damaging the comic book publishers had to establish CCA (Comic Codes Authority) to “police” the content of comic books. That’s why American comic book revolve on Superheroes theme so much. They want to play it safe.
Good thing that publishers and writers nowadays are sick with CCA. More and more of them release their comics without CCA stamp of approval. Also the fact that Japanese Manga “invasion” in the 90s where they introduce stories that willing to touch a much more mature content.
Also the rise of internet help comic artists and writers who sick with syndicates/publications who keep censoring the most asinine stuff in comic books/newspaper comics. I bet half of Sandra and Woo content won’t be allowed to be printed on newspapers because they touch several “sensitive” matters.
@ Nix:
I disagree that there are more bad kids nowadays. The fact is the more kids learn good values from both IRL and internet. Sure we will find kids with bad values but they usually post more on the internet and love being LOUD about it. Because of that even when they are in a smaller group they looks like a majority due to more online posts because they’re online more often.
Kids with good values usually quite balanced in both virtual world and real world. Kids with good values will do stuff like what Cloud, Sandra and Larissa do. They will be more active socially and more productive. That’s why they post less on the internet and more content with their life.
The best example is a TV show hosted by James May about Airfix. The kids he asked for help are actually pretty nice and good in social, logic, organization, leadership and cooperation skills. When they build a life size model planes only 2 members of the group “desert” the group because they want to watch Beyonce concert. Someone uploaded the episode in Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zID8rnZcshs
I still have hopes for our future children.
It’s been pointed out ‘[This is what socrates said about children in his day, so not much has changed, kids are always like this]”
It would be more accurate to say that our society now, parallels the greek society in Athens at the time of Socrates.
Specifically: they were at their pinnacle… and they started to get lazy and decadent. And while “the greek empire” continued for some time, the influence of Athens itself declined. For example, shortly before socrates died around 400BC, Sparta conquered Athens, and it was never much of a dominant power again.
cf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greece
@ Frozenwolf150:
but what if not all bloggers are like that and some are really good and you’re generalizing and condemning using one sample? then we have a paradox of hypocrisy! 😉
@ Avian Mosquito:
No, that’s the modern femnazi. Feminists are decent people looking for gender equality, although they do tend to exaggerate female inequality at times, and ignore male inequalities.
Bah… kids today with their My-faces and Book-spaces…
I work with kids around this age, and I feel anger every time I hear generalizations like that. After hearing the sweet, heartbreaking things they were saying after the tragedy that happened so recently, I seems completely alien to me that anyone would think kids are selfish nowadays.
Take a long walk off a short pier, Bridget!!
“Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents and everyone is writing a book.” ~ Cicero, 43BC
Me-me wrote:
Mainly because it’s NOT music; and deliberately so.
It’s a tone-deaf monotone’s idea of what music is, set to a beat.
All melody is deliberately squelched.
Even Amerindian “songs” have melody; even if there aren’t any lyrics.
Come to think if it: They’re two-sides of the same coin:
“Rap” has words and rhythm; but no melody.
(It’s monotone poetry, set to a beat.)
“Amerindian Songs” have some melody and rhythm, but no words.
(It’s repetitious syllables with a slowly-changing melody and beat.)
I can’t count either one as “songs”.
Of course, one is intended mainly only to DANCE to; so ….
There the dance supposedly tells the story, not the lyrics.
I prefer Polynesian music, where the song, the music, and the whole BODY tells the story.
Possibly the current generation has fixated on “rap” music for that very reason: that it grates on the older generations nerves. I fear though, in about 20 years or so, unlike every previous generation with the songs and music *their* elders didn’t like, the present generation won’t have a single memorable melody to whistle or “sing”; because nothing makes you truly remember a song like the melody it is sung to.
Well … OK … That’s a bit unfair; considering there are thousands of OTHER and REAL songs put out every year by “Pop” artists, “Country” singers, and such-like that people WILL remember. Only, of course, like all music, (and pretty much anything “artistic”, they all follow Sturgeon’s Law.
Sometime go back through an old stack of 45’s or even CD’s that are older than 10 years; and see what I mean. Yep: Sturgeon was right.
Only … “Rap” music doesn’t come up to even THAT miserable level.
I doubt much that one rap “song” in 10,000 will be remembered in “Golden Oldies” 30 or 40 years from now. Being mostly poor poetry set to a beat, well: How many people remember favorite poems compared to favorite songs? Of those so-remembered, most is GOOD poetry, not just doggerel berating the older generation or glorifying crime. Which in a way, will be a quite sad thing for the current generation.
Just my opinion, of course.
Your mileage may vary considerably.
I can not see the picture : (
We have a winner for the 2012 conclusion long jump!
@ Pillamelai:
A because of your gravitar. B. no man that i know would make the comments you make.
I hats this general stereotype.
I know,right? I think this quote from Mr. Popo from DBZ Abridged (shudder) is appropriate here: “Oh,look,a woman that doesn’t know any better.”@ BarGamer:
@ Jimmy C:
Or fire extinguisher.
You know what my favorite quote is “I always tell kids how much better it was in my day, then I remember how when I was young I didn’t listen to other people telling me that.” Don’t remember where it’s from but I heard it somewhere.
Frozenwolf150 wrote:
… Were you being self-descriptive ironically, or did you just accidentally fall into the trap of hypocrisy?
It’s sad how accurate this is.
That darn availability heuristic.
Listen to rap music?
What kind of vague accusation is that?
Not to say that it’s bad writing. Au contraire, it’s very realistic for this sort of person.
i love “be the first to like this” am i the only one who saw that it was a really nice touch
–and she misses all the good parts and only sees the bad.
@ Bartimaeus:
I’m pretty sure that there HAD been at least one compaint abotu the “youth of today” by either a greek or roman philosopher, though.
(in truth, I’m 99% sure that, on average, kids today are actually better than their parents. For example, racism seems to be becoming less of a problem as people who grew up in the era before civil rights die off. ( when I say racism is becoming less of a problem, I am talking about day-to-day racism- as in, the average person is less likely to run into a racist. However, any cases of institutional racism would take longer to disappear.)
is not this little bit similar to what what self proclaimed fake @ss internet tumblr femenist do
@ Bartimaeus:
In any event how do I get the kids off of my lawn?!