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![[0571] A Talk Between Women](/comics/2014-04-10-0571-a-talk-between-women.png "[0571] A Talk Between Women")
- Larisa: Sandy, may I ask you a question? Woman to woman?
- Sandra: Sure. Go ahead!
- Larisa: Thank you. You’re the only one with whom I can talk about such things. The point is that… blah blah blah
- Sandra: I understand. But how can the desertification of Uzbekistan be stopped at all as long as drawing water for cotton production isn’t restricted by law?
- Larisa: See? That’s exactly the problem!
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Woman to Woman= International Politics
Welcome to the 21st Century XD
I am noticing this type of thing more and more now, adolescents actually caring what goes on in the world now. It really is a great thing, perhaps pure ignorance will one day be a thing of the past 😀
Yes don’t mind me, the only male in the world not involved in politics that doesn’t mind discussing it. Nothing to see here :/
Personally, I think the child labour issues are more pressing, but I can see her point…
How long is larissa’s secret going to be drawn out? (i do laugh every time they almost reveal it though)
Meanwhile I’d be the guy sitting behind them, wishing they’d lower their voices so as not to interrupt the discussion I’m having about Adventure Time…
@ Pokeman92:
You’re not alone, but the breed is not being selected for, for some reason. I believe it has something to do with the variety and subject matter of peer pressure males are targeted by.
This is a very nice strip 🙂
Refer to Comic #85.
Already thinking towards political and social change. Such wonderful kids! :3
Sandra: And since the political will doesn’t exist there, especially with the short-term profits from cotton exports, it would seem that such laws would have to be imposed from above, paternalistic as that might appear and troublesome as that might be, either by the Russian Federation or the UN.
Larisa: Well, exactly… I’m trying to think of a less confrontational way to it, but there doesn’t seem to be one. Such a sad indictment of the world we live in… but anyway, thanks for discussing it with me, and keeping quiet about that other thing that I mentioned…
Sandra: I still can’t understand how that came up in a discussion on water abstraction… unless you’ve been wanting to tell me for ages, but haven’t been able to… but yes, I promise not to breathe a word to anyone!
The problem is that people with a casual interest in a subject tend to promote naive solutions that don’t really make sense because they don’t have the necessary expertise. (Mao’s “Great Leap Forward” for example.)
The thing is, though, you see this not only in such lofty areas as geopolitics, but even just everyday life. Just today one of the physicists where I work was trying to tell me how to optimize a piece of code, but his idea of computer performance was naive and revolved around the idea of “flops” which a seasoned programmer knows really don’t matter as much as memory access patterns. When I tried to explain that his ideas wouldn’t buy much, he was suspicious and thought I was just being stubborn or not understanding him or something. This is the same phenomenon you see in political discussions. I think it’s part of the reason the ideologies distrust each other so much.
I don’t like these kinds of discussions, for that reason exactly. Even when people think they’re “informed”, they’re usually not. At most, they know a *part* of *one* side of the story. And any attempt to explain the finer details to them only makes them suspicious of the explainer, if not outright hostile.
Xezlec wrote:
Ah, but the problem of the people you mentioned therefore lies less in their initial naiveté or lack of a deeper understanding and more in their distrust of any new information that doesn’t match their point of view. A common trait, that I have to admit.
I still say though that these kind of discussions are not necessarily a bad thing. At the very least the people involved are showing interest for the cause and a desire to solve problems that come with it. Very aggravating when they’re stubborn about their “perfect” yet unfortunately absolutely unrealistic or simply not working solution, yes. But in the long run still better than indifference in many cases.
These two twelve year olds are having far deeper and more intelligent conversations than most people multiples of their age.
And being far more thoughtful and reasonable than most of those that do have those conversations (prime examples: cable news, and politicians).
And the waitress is practicing politics, as the businessmen slowly get stoned.
He predicted it all, guys.
I can understand her wanting to talk to another female. Guys at that age have too many hormones messing with their minds.
Pokeman92 wrote:
Your username is so similar to my old username I used to use… O_O
Well… desertification is not the biggest of the problems of Uzbekistan, but point is taken… =)
It seems to me that most people are missing the point of the strip? It’s not about precociously smart kids talking about politics (that’s ultimately incidental), but rather about women discussing serious matters as opposed to menstruation, or shopping, or dating as the joke was set up to look like. In other words, it was a dig at the stereotypical perception of “girl talk”.
Uzbekistan? Is this a sly reference to Herman Cain? =)
Bechdel Test…..Passed!
Has anyone looked at images of the Aral sea? It’s turned to desert, all the USSR’s idea
Thats weird for larisa to care about something other then seducing boys.
Iris wrote:
What? Don’t starting fires or disrupting traffic count? ^_-
For Panel 3 I’ll bring your attention to this guy:
http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/wilderness-resources/stories/indian-man-single-handedly-plants-a-1360-acre-forest
Hah, women and their cotton talk.
@ Rivka: unfortunately the two could potentially go hand in hand. get rid of one, can probably fix the other, but truth be told, I haven’t been paying attention as much as I should be lately
Crestlinger wrote:
An amazing story. It just goes to show what human beings can do to the environment for good, if they really want to. It was a very simple yet work intensive strategy.
@ M:
M wrote:
What prediction? The waitress who was practicing politics became his first ex-wife, and I’m fairly sure businessmen have been getting stoned since either the first businesses or the first alcoholic beverages, whichever came second.
Did no one notice how badly Sandra is handling that book in the first picture. I sure hope that is a school book. And even those don’t deserve to be treated like that.
Poor book!
Lukkai wrote:
Ignorance is better than false knowledge. A group of people who care passionately about something but lack the critical faculties to accurately assess a need and achieve a practical solution is far more dangerous than a group of indifferent, self-absorbed first-worlders. When Donald Trump tells the world that autism is caused by vaccines, for instance, he does far more harm by assigning false causality than he does good by raising autism awareness in that same breath. Sadly, this is the reality of the modern “social justice warrior” archetype — all passion, no science.
@ Rivka:
That’s not quiet right. You see, child labour is only a symptom but not the sickness. Children are sent to work because the parents either cannot work (sick or dead) or don’t earn enough.
Yes you could swear not to let any child work there, but the result will only be that every child who worked then, will simply starve.
Don’t get me wrong, i hate child labour too, but it’s not as easy as forbidding it if you don’t fight the cause of it first. If people were not as poor or had a social system like in germany, then i am very sure there would be close to no child labour anymore at all.
@ Pylgrim:
I prefer our version. Especially as we clearly didn’t make said assumption.
i kinda remember the Soviet idea of “let’s drain the Caspian sea since it’s a mistake” was a bad idea in the long run.
Sandy : Are you pondering what I’m pondering?
Liz : I think so, Sandy, but where are we going to find a flamethrower at this hour?
Yes that is very VERY true Sandra* whispers* (what the heck are they talking about?) and who cares about drawing water from the fields!
PaladinVII wrote:
Morshu: Lamp Oil Ropes Bombs? You want it? It’s yours my friend as long as you have enough rupees.
Larissa: you got a flamethrower fatso?
Morshu: Sorry I don’t give credit. Come back when you’ve gotten mmmmm richer.
Larissa: Damn Should have went to Walmart.
Everyone else is posting really philosophical comments, so I believe this is in order.
Bacon.
Reminds me of that Avalon strip where Ceilidh starts thinking about the romantic entanglements around her, then her thoughts turn to the problem of urban sprawl.
…say, how did that turn out (he adds out of a sense of obligation)?
Wait…is the joke that they’re young and discussing international politics?
Is that unusual?
At least fifty percent of conversations in my school are about all kinds of politics…
(The other fifty percent is, of course, about the Prom :p)
@ Luke:
Yes, so goverments, clean up your mess, i dont want to deal with a hot trashy planet
Pff! Girld talk, eugh. Silly girls talking about their complex socio-political environmental policies and ideas.
We men talk instead about the IMPORTANT issues.
Like how Gary’s new mowhawk throws his entire wardrobe out of balance!
I totally agree Larisa.
@ MintCookie: No, the joke is that Larisa leads into it in a way that makes it sound, in general, like something more personal, and in particular, like a continuation of the “Larisa’s secret” plotline.
@ Luke:
Hmmm, guess that hasn’t reached my neck of the woods yet.
@ Luke:
Hmmm, guess that hasn’t reached my neck of the woods yet.@ Iris:
Fire. Don’t forget fire.
Aaahhh…this brings back so many memories~! Mainly I’d be discussing this kind of stuff with my sister…or pestering my friends with it.
@ Luke:
That will never be a thing of the past….
Larisa turning a stereotype about women on its head?! Why I never! What a hoot.
@ ve4gap:
Fine, for once, she isn’t thinking about seducing boys, setting things on fire, insulin, Russian bombs, revenge, causing problems, wanting Cloud, showing off. And other stuff