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![[0640] Roundabout II](/comics/2014-12-08-0640-roundabout-ii.png "[0640] Roundabout II")
- Caption: One week later.
- Yuna: This is boring. Faster, mommy!!
- Ye Thuza: I’m trying, but it isn’t working!
- Yuna: Why not?
- Ye Thuza: I don’t kn–
- Sign: This playground now fulfills all requirements of the new playground equipment safety law!
- Yuna: BWAAAAAAAAAH {SOB}
- Ye Thuza: There’s nothing worse in life than when your attacker laughs in your face.
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Jon wrote:
The other mother from the comic before did not care any more than Ye Thuza. She just had other ideas about what’s safe for her kid and what not. And while Ye Thuza sets the bar for acceptable risk rather high, the other mother sets it very low. Too low than would be healthy for the kid from the looks of it.
Now no one would have really chastised her for her views. But then she or someone like her started an initiative and was actually successful in forcing them on others. That’s what was criticised in the comments.
And if you read carefully, you would notice that many voices are absolutely in favour of sensible changes. It’s the blind, senseless and very often harmful actionism frequently exhibited by those “people that actually care”, that we spoke out against.
Jon wrote:
I absolutely would NOT want the equipment dismantled, destroyed, or banned. I’d welcome the injury, because guess what? It’d teach my child not to do that stupid thing again, or if doing it, being aware that it is stupid. Yes, I did stupid stuff as a child…but I LEARNED from that stupid stuff and became a much more mature, responsible individual as a result.
Blindly being told to “do this, don’t do that” suffocated me and I would often act in opposition to them specifically to spite them since I didn’t understand why those rules were there. From my perspective, those rules were stupid, not me. Learning why we ask them to not do this or that is a much more effective approach than just telling them not to do this or that.
Sarusig wrote:
What is it?
One of my fondest memories as a child was a time when my parents took me to an illegal seesaw …
We can fix this. All we need to fix that merry go round is Tim Allen and a suped up lawnmower engine. More power!
It’s like when I saw “Kids react to: Power Rangers” on YouTube. On the kids directly said: “Violent? It’s a TV show, for Christ sake! Seriously, parents!”.
I remember playing on one of those in middle school, including being flung off once trying to get on because they had it going too fast and ending up with scraped knees and palms but that was really my own fault for thinking I could actually grab on when it was going as fast as it was. It was a learning experience which is what kids are supposed to get while they’re kids so they develop properly because it’s generally too late to get those kinds of things across or at least they’re far far harder to impress on people after they’re already grown up and set in their ways.
This is the part where you get out a screwdriver, remove the brakes, and install the solar powered kinetic assist electric bike motor. You could push it to 120 RPM’s before? TRY 240!
I’m just gonna leave this one here…
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20141205/park-slope/parks-dept-puts-stop-spinning-playground-equipment-after-injuries
@ JusticeM:
And yet, people are upset with US for not wanting to go play outside. At least with a computer, you can get around the safety proofing with a few clicks, some keystrokes, and a new profile (with an age change, of course).
To anyone who is disturbed by the idea that “Some children will die on playgrounds”:
We have aluminum boxes carry people to work at 60 miles per hour powered by burning oil (They go faster yes, but that’s like the person with the motorcycle on the spinning thing). Car accidents kill a lot of people, but you don’t see people banning them (Well, at least not for safety usually).
Important things to know about playgrounds:
a) they are fun
b) kids heal fast
I’m rather late to the party, but here’s a real-life example of this type of carousel / roundabout / centrifuge toy. http://kuvaton.com/browse/32744/leikkipuisto_2.jpg
@ Bisqwit:
You know, a couple of strong friends could probably fix that one. The round about does not appear to be secured to the ground, so if you could get it lifted over one of the walls…
That’s just wrong.
@ Ladybug:
I know… When I was in school as a kid they had this awesome ship that you could climb and sit on. One child got a splinter from it and they banned everyone from getting near it. Even fenced it off.
I used to go to a local school in winter where the slide would be iced over and go flying from it. It was a blast and I never got hurt because the snow was deep enough. No one threw a fit or banned me.
Well, I’ll grab my pliers, you find an oil can, gran still has those ball bearings… we’ll fix this.
Seriously! Every time they decide to update things, I have to reengineer them…
I remember jumping off the jungle gym equipment when my family was stationed in California. I think were all around 12, it must have been a 10 ft drop or so . . . good times (and it had sand, not those crappy wood chips). roundabouts though . . . those get nasty. I’ve had friends report rather spectacular spiral fractures when kids fall off and their feet get caught under the things.
When they shut down the mega-arcade that was standing for nearly 30 years I had the same reaction as Yuna….I loved that place.
Jon wrote:
The law of unintended consequences…
Decision: The merry-go-round is dangerous, therefore we need to remove it or make it “safe”
Action: Merry-go-round is nerfed to only spin at “safe” speeds
Consequence: Kids stop playing on the merry-go-round because it’s boring and play on the swings
Decision: Swings are now the most dangerous thing on the playground and cannot be made safe by their very nature, so we need to remove them
…repeat through all playground equipment until all are either “safe” (i.e. boring) or removed…
Consequence: Kids stop playing at the playground because it’s boring
Secondary Consequence: Kids have health issues from lack of activities engaging enough for them to leave their home
Decision: Kids are getting obese, so we need to regulate their diet…
…ad absurdum…
The solution is to accept that everyone ever born is doomed to die (no one gets out of this world alive) and the state is neither responsible for your safety nor culpable for your eventual death… no matter how that should occur. People that sue a city for their child being injured or killed on public property are the real monsters.
My youngest son nearly died in a car accident last year on a public highway. He broke both arms, suffered bruised lungs, multiple severe lacerations and unimaginable pain. If he had died, (as the two other people in the vehicle did) no amount of money in the world would console my pain nor bring him back… nor would punishing the family of the driver. (who suffered enough loss)
People who want to make the world “safe” may also have hidden agendas and use the fear of pain and death to manipulate others into giving them what they want. “For the children…” is a fear-mongering phrase used to divide and subvert conscientious opposition. After all, no one WANTS kids to be hurt! Right? But the phrase maneuvers the opposition into looking cold and heartless… as though they are the monster just for having a differing viewpoint. (more importantly, for not sharing the same end goals as the proponent) So the opposition is forced to make purely logical appeals to reason (perpetuating the lie that they just don’t care) while the proponents are free to engage in emotional appeals that are more effective at swaying public opinion.
But no one’s having their opinions suppressed… (just framed)
… that b*tch did not! how the! such shame is not to be accepted! retaliation! retaliation! i say!
Sadly it’s true. Just look at requirements for playground equipment in EU. We used to have a 3,5 m tall monkey bar construction with fireman slipway pole in front of our house. First it got reduced to 2 m height to be “safe” (actually it was not, because it there was nothing to hold to on top after), then it got removed altogether.