[0941] The Godfather
└ posted on Monday, 27 November 2017, by Novil
- Ye Thuza: Hi, I’m “The Dark Knight Rises.” My plot has more holes than the body of a wannabe spree killer at an NRA convention.
- Ye Thuza: I’m “Prometheus.” My characters have about as much common sense as a mentally handicapped amoeba.
- Ye Thuza: I’m “Snowpiercer.” I’m in the Guinness Book of World Records for the setting that makes the least amount of sense.
- Ye Thuza: A movie with our flaws combined…
- Ye Thuza: … would still be a hundred times more entertaining than the snoozefest that was “The Godfather.”
- David: It’s the lynch mob.
- Ye Thuza: Tell them I liked “Twilight” better than “Blade Runner.”
![[0941] The Godfather](/comics/2017-11-27-0941-the-godfather.png "[0941] The Godfather")
1oldbear wrote:
I think the problem with “The Godfather” is more that people might watch it with the wrong expectations, especially regarding Ye Thuza’s comparisons. If people hear it is a film about mob bosses and organized crime and expect an action thriller, they will perceive the film as slow and boring, although there are some action scenes. That’s because the film is not really an action thriller, but a family drama about a young man’s futile attempt to live an honorable life despite the crimminal background of his other family members, whom he still loves an wants to protect. If you like family dramas and watch it with that expectation in mind, it is a terrific movie (although the drama loving guy might complain that there is a little too much violence depicted in the movie 😉 ).
There’s not really a correlation between entertainment and quality…. I present “Citizen Kane” and “Independence Day: Resurgence”. ‘Nuff said.
I believe she IS trolling them on purpose… 🙂
@ maarvarq:
There were no breaks between carriages. Did you actually even pay attention? As for why it was going somewhere, instead of them using the engine as a power source, or something, it’s because the train was never intended for human survival. The engine’s already there, they used it as best they could. That’s not hard, man. And really? Odd people? The new year’s scene? Almost like a group of elites living in a post apocalypse might be a little odd. But that’s NEVER been a thing, has it?
@ Novil:
Novil, I have felt I disagreed with you on a number of topics, but on this we can agree. Snoozefest.
Now, Blade Runner, I can honestly say had fewer problems with pacing than 2001, but I still would compare it favorably to something like Twilight, because Twilight is one of the major gutterballs of the movie industry in the past 10 years of film, and all of its bigshot executive producers and financiers should have known better by now than to greenlight something like that.
@ someguy:
Why do you think Ye Thuza is trolling about that particular movie (The Godfather)? Obviously, because she has a lot of personal history she can use to critique the fiction.
Also, despite how horrible it is, Twilight is (sadly) probably more true to life than Blade Runner at this juncture in history, so she’s got 1% of a point there.
@ 1oldbear:
Definitely this… You kids now-a-days, back in my time we liked our movies with plot and dialog and pacing that wasn’t made for ab epileptic, ADD child on 2 pounds of fun dip. *shakes head* kids…
@ Trimutius:
If it isn’t from Pixar, isn’t a musical, or doesn’t have the word ‘Star’ in the title, it’s likely I haven’t seen it. There are the obvious classical exceptions – Casablanca; Good, Bad, Ugly; Blazing Saddles, etc.
@ Thunderfoot:
But thinking is sooo old school! I don’t wanna think, I just want to be spoon feed fun dip. No fuck that, I want my fun dip intravenously!
Now shut up and watch the movie, I’m trying to keep a conversation and blogging here. I thought old foggies knew to keep quiet at the movies. No respect for other peoples conversations. Now where is my happy fun juice iv? Ahhh… that’s better now red line that pressure and keep those cuts at under 2 seconds or get the fuck out!
It’s good to reanalyze what stories you like and not just let nostalgia cloud your vision. Conversely I enjoy movies more when I try to watch them in the context of their times and technology. Editing has come a long way. So many great movies were made great by editors. You see it a lot in movies where the director makes a great first movie then they get too much creative control and stuff that should have been cut doesn’t get cut.
In this comic though I think the two most directly comparable movies are actually twilight and the godfather. They are both fundamentally dramas showing the other side of a group the public would largely view as evil. They both center around a couple in which the female outsider allows for a bunch of exposition. The male in both treats her pretty terribly as he goes hot and cold about how much to bring her into the group.
Someone needs to tell Ye Thuza that, no matter how hard you try, you cannot make peoples’ heads explode with bad movie opinions.
What I’ve gathered with time is that people get different things from movies. Some people like their movies shallow and with bright lights because they want to be entertained, like in a circus, and would rather sit down to watch Fast and Furious or Transformers and turn their brain off than watch a movie just for the story like with Godfather or, I dunno, Last of the Mohicans, Shawshank Redemption, etc.
woahwoah there. Not liking “The Godfather” is one thing but even comparing Twilight and Bladerunner?! I don’t like Ye Tuza anymore.
I wouldn’t make fun of the Plane Scene’s sequel.
Snowpiercer is an awesome story made out of a contained setting with a lot of cool scenes and interesting concepts….but my GOD are you right about the absurdity of the actual setting location. Nothing makes sense, in the slightest. I love that movie but the more I think about it the more questions crop up. My only advice when watching it is try to turn your brain off and have fun, the less you think about the setting and the logistics, the more fun you will have.
@ Anonymous Coward (not verified):
No, they’re linking to this one.
I’m going to have to check snowpiercer out now.
nicktyrong wrote:
nicktyrong wrote:
Sorry, none if that makes sense.
* The world is not a perfect sphere, so any track has to have changes in curvature. Any train without articulation will fall off the track. Either the articulation is between the cars providing many weak points (breaks), or the cars are flexible which means the whole train in nothing but weak points.
* A train is long and narrow, which is much harder to protect against cold than pretty much anything.
* A few centemeter shift in a track can cause a train to derail. A disaster that wiped everything else, and out tens millions of metes of track, not a single meter was disturbed? Not a single bridge needed repairs?
* Thousands of structures that were strengthened to survive disasters all fail, but one of the most fragile things on the planet is the only thing to survive?
The premise is ridiculously, but even sillier movies can be wonderful fun.
Not gonna lie, I’d most likely watch a Ridley Scott/Christopher Nolan/Bong Joon-ho movie mashup even if it was bad. That just sounds amazing to me!
Now if we could just get Nicolas Cage to star in it…
I like DKR. I like Snowpiercer. Wasn’t crazy about Prometheus.
In fact, how is Prometheus even in the category of those other two? Snowpiercer, maybe, but DKR? Sure, it didn’t live up to DK, but how could it? Still better then anything DC is putting out today in the live action department, no question of that.
I was about to go on an angry rant. But then I realized that I, myself, do enjoyed things like Michael Bay’s Transformers and absolutely hated Forrest Gump.
So, I’m probably not the best person to judge.
Forrest Gump was crap though.
Such a polite mob.
Reminds me of the ones chasing Sam in Freefall. They even give him a head start sometimes.
Broken Gear wrote:
Dude.
Rephrase and reason that, please.
I really do not like internet trolls like Ye Thuza seems to be…
That is one polite mob, just saying. They rung the doorbell and even wait until they’re invited in to do anything other than shout. 10/10, would riot with them again.
@ Taigan:
The premise or setting on ‘Snowpiercer’ was the only thing wrong. The rest was pretty cool. DKR just felt more like they went back to a George Clooney batman story. Just bad. Prometheus was good, it just didn’t meet the audiences expectation for direction of story. And the follow-up tried to give them what they wanted but didn’t finish Prometheus. And why is all the potentially story-critical parts in web based content rather than in the movie? 2001 is a classic, and true work of art because they give us space in it’s true nature, unlike our Sci-Fi favorites. it’s just slow. Lucas ruined the prequels by playing down to audiences instead of giving them a gritty drama like Empire Strikes Back.
The big issue with Ye’s first comment is, actually, the reason her final one is not an issue.
“.. would still be more entertaining” is an objective claim about cinema: “X is greater than Y along this particular axis”.
“I like Twilight better than Blade Runner.” is a statement of personal taste.
The second statement merely means that Ye is not someone I would ever, ever trust to make the final choice on movie night. The former, however, commits the very sin her defenders would attribute to her detractors–ignoring the fact that she’s only speaking to her own tastes. “I would find a movie with these horrible qualities more entertaining than Godfather” would be a subjective statement, like “I like X better than Y”, and therefore would be unworthy of correction.
Of course, it also completely bypasses the nuances of the English language regarding the word “entertaining”–which is not only a matter of personal taste, but also personal definition. I no longer find films that have specific racist and sexist tropes to be entertaining, no matter how skillfully they are presented.
Hell, a given person may even have different uses of the word running through their own mind. Some pleasures are over and done as soon as the experience ends; others linger as you can examine what you experienced from multiple angles. The Godfather and Blade Runner both have a depth of nuance that allows for analysis. At most, the three pictured films (and Twilight, as well) mostly are done with once you get off the couch, unless you happen to want to spend an hour afterward nitpicking the plot holes and addressing Fridge Logic issues. They’re the equivalent of masturbation–fun while it lasts, but probably not worth talking about once it’s over.
KarmaTheAlligator wrote:
That’s a German comic. In Germany, riots are scheduled & have to be registered.
I thought the Godfather was good, probably better than those movies (But then again, I really dislike the three movies there..soo..) But that’s it. It’s just good.
But seriously, The Godfather is tremendously overrated. It’s only good. Not the greatest movie on this earth.
Broken Gear wrote:
Thank you! Forrest Gump is also horrendously overrated. Not worth all the hype.
I’d actually be entertained by that amalgamation because it would be laughable levels of bad
When I read the comic I was like ‘Snowpiercer, I don’t know that movie’. Then, reading the comment of maarvarq I realized I did watch it, from beginning to end. Either I’m really bad with remembering titles, or it was just that memorable…
Ok, not liking the Godfather I can get…
Enjoying Twilight over almost literally any other movie though?
@ Rich314:
When I say there were no breaks, I mean none were uncovered. That was the point. Yes the train bent. You can cover those. We already DO this. And the ice age KILLED everyone. Everyone dying has nothing to do with infrastructure. As for why it didn’t wear out, the guy’s insane and made perpetual motion. You don’t think he’d spend the extra to ensure his track was entirely self sufficient for a few decades, and not crumble like the already old buildings? Again, people watch, but don’t think.
Damn, missed a perfect opportunity for a Twin Peaks pun…
@ MidoriLuna:
Eh, it’s a common joke about spree shooters and there are so many shootings in gun free zones they all kinda blend together.
Jesse wrote:
There’s instead, the horrible “acting” to consider. Someone reading the book in the same room as me, did not make playing Morrowind unenjoyable.
nicktyrong wrote:
One of the greatest adoptive dads in the whole history of movies dedicates his life to loving, caring and protecting a kid.
Then he (for no reason) decides to mass murder thousands of children, while also helping his own beloved kid commit suicide (also for no reason).
That alone is enough to make Dark Knight Rises irredeemable.
@ Conserp:Alfred knew Bruce was going to survive. Also… what children died?
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I thought the punchline for the strip would be “Hunger Games”, because it does fit the joke of all three films combined.
Well, Ye Thuza, those movies may be bad, but at least they aren’t as bad as the Final Fantasy series.
@ Nobody:
The whole problem of “2001”’s ending was Kubrick thinking he could get across an abstract concept such as “embryo god” entirely through his cinematic version of interpretive dance. No one who hadn’t read the book got it.
Oh come on, anything with harrison ford is better than twilight, hell even the mess that was crystal skull was better than twighlight (and i dont care how trolly you are, crystal skull was aweful)
And dont get me wrong i love trashy teen romance movies with poorly thought out love triangles, its a good chunk of famfictiom i comsume and enjoy, but nobody in the twighlight movies could act at all
It was a bad movie, not because of the subject material but it was just a bad piece of filmaking
@ r4m0n:
I think the movie she’s talking about is The Room by Tommy Wiseau
Oh, she’s REALLY tempting fate, isn’t she? LOL.