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In the comment section, we also discuss the new mixtape (aka trailer) for Final Fantasy VII Remake dropped by SquareEnix on YouTube.
There is also a longer gameplay trailer that explains the combat system in detail.
- Alexander: Hey, girls, I just dropped my new mixtape. It’s fire!
- Zoey: Isn’t Alexander just gorgeous?!
- Michelle: I thought you were only into girls…?
- Zoey: There’s a solution for every problem!
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@ erejnion:
Getting doctors to understand the difference between “low normal” and an individual’s actual needs when it comes to hormones is nearly impossible in the US. Officially my thyroid is dysfunctional, but too nearly functional to be prescribed the medications that would help me. I need a new endocrinologist, but my insurance is stalling me. Thank you for your support, I appreciate it greatly.
@ Soulless1:
Such can only be determined by empirical experiment.
And well – the healthcare system you have in US is abysmally ineffective.
Collegue (consequently american who actually does not want to go back) was there at work trip and broke one finger on his leg.
he got 3 RTGs and was billed 4000 USD for procedure that was done by 1 week trained medics in trenches of WW I.
Consequently – when bag of isotonic fluid that costs 1 USD to make is billed 500 USD to the patient /insurance – you can imagine how you system simply does not have money.
(funnily – there is NO INSURANCE scheme that would ever fix US healthcare system – you either have to regulate prices in hospitals or you can give up, even “single payer” in US wont do with service and medicament prices loose as you have them)
Nope,nope nope nope nope nope abort! Abort! Abandon ship!
Well, let’s get back to final fantasy.
As a long fan of the original ff7 – who even wrote a fantasy book that features distantly similar religious ideas 😉 – I’m quite happy with almost everything up to now.
I already noticed that some people complained about the “long” face of Aerith, but I feel that is artistic freedom. It’s not always the best choice from a narrative perspective to have extremely beautiful people. It can be better to have small defects or even ugly people. Otherwise it gets boring & characters loose, err, character.
@ Tesunie:
Actually, most sources I’ve seen for a good ten years DO refer to it as gender reassignment surgery! I’ve seen a few others — gender correction surgery, for instance — but GRS seems to have been pretty standard for a while.
@ HKMaly:
Nicely said! My response was going to be similar, but I don’t know if it would have been better.
@ Z:
When people won’t argue in good faith, it’s not even worth engaging
Grace wrote:
You still didn’t provide the link to the paper you cited.
If you cite papers you should at least know the title so people can look it up. Even better would be a direct link, even if the paper is beyond a paywall.
Wait, what about Julia?
Panel 3: http://i.imgur.com/7MviDcY.jpg
@ Arent:
Sorry, I thought you were being facetious . . . I taught my undergrads how to do their own research.
Grace wrote:
“I mean, it does exist. No really, it does. It’s totally your fault if you can’t find. You just don’t know how search. Totally that.” XD
Just give the fellow the source. You don’t need to be better than thou just because you don’t like or agree with them…
“Grace, my dear? Can you show me how this Yo-Tub worked again? I can’t seem to find it…”
“Argh! Mom! You need to do your research yourself. That’s what I teach to my undergrads and they’re way dumber than you, so what’s your problem?!”
“Oh, sorry to be a bother, dear. I’ll look for it on my own…”
Plus there was that gag that Ye Thuza uses brainwashing on David to get out of doing chores herself. I mean I tend to think humor works best when it’s an extension of the character, so either characterization was tossed aside from humor or Ye really doesn’t respect her husband.
Darn. My first post didn’t get through. But yeah that post was me commenting on why I don’t know if I agree with the suggestion that Novil is feminist and that Dorothy Cambridge was a crack at the extremists.
Mainly my post was bringing up:
1. The arc with Butterfly and how she was being shamed for possibly not wanting to mate and have kits. I don’t take issue with the last bit of the arc with her meeting a Raccoon with similar ambitions, just that I don’t agreeing with the insinuation that she has a moral obligation to mate and that doing so should be her choice first and foremost.
2. Yeah Cloud’s dating advice just came off as 95% percent of girls are the worst. On the one hand, the final part of the arc was okay, but then it feels like he’s suggesting that girls who aren’t quiet are ones to avoid.
going a bit Melody there Zoey.
Grace wrote:
Much as I’d like to disagree with Arent… You gotta back up your own argument. Expecting people to read your mind and find the location of the info you found on the internet (or heaven forbid in a book or multi-year class), while also filtering bias, misinformation, and propaganda?
Yeah right. The only reason your undergrads do it is because they’re graded.
Hard to believe a few years ago, I managed to get myself banned from another website by rightfully pointing out that certain sexual orientations were inherently discriminatory. And could be referred to as phobic by whatever group is excluded.
Yes, yes. A heterosexual man who refuses to sleep with a homosexual man or a trans woman with a penis is homophobic, transphobic and sexist. Congratulations, those words are so bloated and all encompassing (like racism) they have little meaning.
“Black people have dark skin” is a racist statement, just so you know why that word has little meaning.
@ Z:
Imagine thinking this strip is about anyone being transgender.
So, is it because Zoey is showing a willingness to mutilate Alex’ body against his will? Which is just Zoey refusing to accept she’s bi.
Or is it because the strip isn’t about transgendered people and not paying attention to trans people is transphobic? Which is trans-people whining about how people aren’t paying attention to them.
Here’s that attention you ordered. Reply to this or move on, whatever.
Antiyonder wrote:
I always had the impression that Novil isn’t so much taking a crack a extremists, but instead at political activists. The problem is that we have right now a whole lot of people who pose as advocates of various groups – homosexuals, jews, women, immigrants etc. – although they do not care the least about these groups. In fact, they do not adress actual violations of their rights as long as they can not be blamed on their political enemy 😉
A simple example: There are a lot of activists complaining about racism. Still, none of them ever holds a rally against IS oder Hamas, although these groups are clearly antisemitic and racist. Criticism is only voiced over western countries, and only if it can be blamed on the political opponent.
The same is true for jews, women or homosexuals: Even extreme cases of murder, torture, rape is hushed up and played down, if it might benefit the political opponent. The actual interests and opinions of jews, women or homoxuals is simply not important – or, in the worst case, actively opposed.
Hoo boy am I excited at the FF VII remake! Never mind the graphical update… I’m really keen to see the deeper, well, characterisation of the characters. Cloud, though his storyline idea is great (as a fraud pretending to be a hero and eventually making a reality of that), but he otherwise felt very flat, and never developed convincingly. I blame the lack of dialogue. Tifa had a similar problem for me (seriously, I think her most defining moment was when she quit the party to look after Cloud after he went full vegetable), but from the trailer it looks like they’re already showing good work on giving more to her than “the nice nurturing femenine one”.
All that in mind, I hope thay they *don’t* take anything away from Aerith. She always seemed the true hero of the story to me – and how I cheered when she ditched Cloud and co to try save the world on her own, when Cloud seemed to be a liability. And that even after dying (or indeed, by dying) she was instrumental to saving the world. What a lady! I really want to see that expanded on, not curtailed to make her more passive.
Ilmari wrote:
Well, at least in the trailer we can see several scenes that were not present in the original, so it appears that your wish might be fulfilled. I can not remember a scene were Cloud sat next to Tifa & Tifa had “second thoughts”.
Similar, Barret seems to be the one now who pushes the rather extremist blowing up of a reactor.
@ Arent:
I hope the remake stays true to Aeris’ character of being a tomboy who was more than a little bit happy to see Cloud wearing a dress.
Because girls casually talking about sexually mutilating boys is funny.
@ Threadnaught:
I don’t know why I do this to myself. I guess if one person, someday, somewhere, starts to head down a better, kinder path because I took the time to explain, then it’ll be worth it.
So here’s why me and several other trans women were upset by this: that joke about genital mutilation is something often used to harass and dehumanize us. Violence against folks like us, often spurred by such jokes, has left our average lifespan at… oh, about mid-thirties. My only intention was to inform Novil of what I’m sure was a mistake, so he could avoid such things in the future. Some people, it would seem, would prefer it if we simply accepted our lot as the butt of so many jokes. But you know what? This was quite upsetting to read, and I deemed to necessary to involve myself and open myself up to such ridicule in order to hopefully prevent it from happening again. There are a lot of trans women in worse situations than I, and this would hit them far harder.
Feelings are the only things that truly matter in this material universe, and as such I cannot imagine an artist not wanting to find out that they accidentally hurt someone or perpetuated something demeaning. It should be the goal of every human to do as little harm to others as possible, and refusing to accept the damage you do out of indifference or stubbornness only reveals your deep-seated selfishness.
Your first paragraph indicates that you fundamentally misunderstand what discrimination is in this context. Preference and bigotry can indeed go hand in hand. It is the responsibility of every person to monitor themselves to ensure they keep them separate. If you frequently barged into conversations to flaunt this misunderstanding and harass and insult marginalized folks, you were banned for a very good reason.
Also, claiming that trans people who speak up about these injustices only want “attention” is utterly inaccurate. Most of us would prefer to simply live our lives. But in a world dead set on erasing us, we have both the right and responsibility to advocate for ourselves in all kinds of situations. It’s the only way for things to possibly get better some day. Besides, I’d consider the last few centuries to be dominated by cishet white men demanding attention above all others. It’s about time things got a little more equal.
Z wrote:
Is that because of white old men in America and Europe or could it be that the culprits are sitting in other countries?
If so, why do you protest against Novils comic, instead of countries who murder or torture homosexuals?
Z wrote:
What about asian or black men? Why do only ‘cishet white men’ deserve your ire? Are white men more evil than others?
@ Red5:
I figured someone who quite literally claimed to be smarter than the rest of us should be able to do
a little Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V into DuckDuckGo, and . . . https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2190741/. Was I really expecting too much?
@ Arent:
Your endless condescending, intentionally ignorant nonsense and whataboutism continues to not be worth my time or anyone else’s. Crawl back into the clown car you arrived in.
Arent wrote:
Well I mean Trump is currently in the White House which is America.:-)
Well one needs to clean their proverbial houses before telling other households to keep clean. I mean America is constantly touted as the country of acceptance and freedom.
Grace wrote:
Thank you for posting the link to the paper!
As I suspected, the patient in question has several deviations from normal xx / xy. First of all, she has a mosaic karyotype and is 46XY / 45X mixed cells. So, basically, male and female cells mixed together. Furthermore the authors of the paper themselves point out that the X chromosome has several mutations/deletions.
This is *not* a normal 46XY male that somehow became a female through free choice or environmental influences.
You initial statement was that:
Grace wrote:
You have just proven that they do determine sex and gender. In fact, I do not know why you thought the paper you cited would support your statement.
@ Arent:
Your conclusion is entirely wrong. To demonstrate that XX/XY pairings are not absolute and invariable, I gave you the example of a fertile XY woman. You bring up, in response, “normal,” which effectively brings us right back to the beginning of you relying on outdated notions of “sex” chromosomes.
Basically, every single thing you have said here about transgender or intersex people has been wrong. I have concentrated on what I felt to be most obvious and least subjective aspect. I’m getting kind of tired of explaining the wheel to you.
Grace wrote:
You are trying to move the goalpost. My initial statement was:
Arent wrote:
You ridiculed that statement & claimed X & Y chromosomes would have no bearing on sex or gender:
Grace wrote:
To prove your point, you cited the case of a 46 XY patient that developed as female, implying it would be environmental conditions or free choice instead of chromosomes that determine sex or gender.
When I read your paper I noticed the patient has 46XY / 45 X mixed karyotype and several mutations on the X chromosome.
You have proven that sex and gender are not determined by behavior but by the x and y chromosomes. Which is exactly what I said from the beginning.
@ Mysterious Dark Lord v3.2:
“It’s not uncommon for young people to get gender-odd crushes. It’s part of the maturation process. No doubt she’ll get over it and resume her passion for girls soon.”
But God forbid (if you’ll forgive the expression) that we should ever suggest that the lesbianism is the phase and that she’ll “get over it”…Thoughtcrime! Thoughtcrime!
No, that’s the norm. A world gone mad.
@ Z:
You know – there is whataboutism and then there is hypocrisy
And generaly – any pointing out of hypocrisy is whataboutism.
Arent wrote:
to make things a bit more precise we still carry remnants of genetic code from our amphibian and lizzard ancestors where sex is mostly determined by outside conditions and is uniformly distributed around chromosomes.
Its inefficient since it can fail to produce parity between sexes and hampers selection.
but most of this genetic code is obsolete and non-functional with “sex” chromosomes taking precedense.
Mammals have XY on males XX on females.
birds have WZ on females and ZZ on males.
Please note that trans people are tired to hell and back of that joke, along with the “oh lol 53524 genders” and “apache helicopter” ones.
I’m not quite as educated as Arent having only a middling neurophysiology qualification but do count myself as blessed to have a very large group of transgender and genderfluid friends, so what follows is based a little on my own education and from what they have told me.
From what I understand, being transgender isn’t a matter of “choice” any more than one “chooses” to be human. It also nothing to do with “belief” – thats why arguments about identifying as an Apache Helicopter or pine tree or whatever fall flat. Close your eyes for a moment and then raise and lower your right arm. You don’t “believe” your arm is moving, you don’t “think” about contracting this muscle to raise it and relax that one to lower it. Your body has all the signals in the brain to where everything is and how its meant to work – the parietal lobe.
So what would happen to someone if their parietal lobe formed with a “body map” for a female and later in their gestation formed an opposing set of genitalia? I don’t know myself but it sounds a lot like the shitshow known as gender dysphoria.
This also explains why the appalling treatment known as conversion therapy is the miserable failure it is – because, once again, being transgender has naught to do with “belief” or “active thoughts” – you know who you are.
Given that minutely altering someone’s parietal lobe is beyond current medicine and an ethically appalling thing to do, gender affirmation surgery remains the most effective way to help a transgender person. It also explains why being transgender was delisted as a mental illness because, mentally, there is nothing wrong with them. All the anxiety, stress, etc comes as a result of social factors rather than internal problems.
Curious Wanderer wrote:
I only said that because instead of good arguments, there were repeated insults both to me and others, concerning our intelligence and education 😉
What I am is, of course, of no concern. Unless someone calls others idiots, then I might point it out.
Curious Wanderer wrote:
The point is that first of all, your body isn’t a choice, including your gender. You can either try to accept it or try to change it. For better or worse.
Apart from that I personally believe that men & women are pretty similar. I think most people would fare quite well being either a women or a man.
Alison N. Manors wrote:
Did anyone of you snowflakes realize that NOTHING in this comic has anything to do with transgender??!! Neither Zoey nor the other guy is in any way portrayed as transgender! It IS meant to be a cheap and intentionally absurd dick cut off joke and nothing else, no gender discussion at all. If you want to read a deeper meaning into it, it could be that Zoey Displays some of her comically overdrawn hybris again in that she would rather “taylor” the one guy she has a crush on into a girl to fit her newfound Image of herself as a lesbian than accepting that it might be more complicated than that and that she might have bisexual leanings. But I don’t think such a harsh Display of Zoey was intended either, since the comic doesn’t come across as if Zoe actually intends to use those Tools, she is joking herself.
Disclaimer to anyone who hasn’t noticed yet: This comic contains fun lighthearted humor about a great variety of topics, including topics some people think one shouldn’t joke about. Stop trying to find a political agenda here or to interpret it as pro or anti trans. Novil most certainly doesn’t intend to express any political statement with todays comic.
It’s funny that, by the definition you’re using of transgenderism in this whole argument, John Bobbitt should be a study case.
Wonder what happened to Novil. The next strip is overdue.
As for the dumpster fire that is this comment section: http://www.jagodibuja.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/383en.jpg Most of us are just enjoying the comic w/o seeking for an underlying meaning which doesn’t exist (in this case). Chill.
someguy wrote:
Careful with the snowflake comment, especially when it can apply to everyone at one point or another (like people who demand that the comment section is devoid of any critical comment about the comic). And there were times I even enjoy a strip fully that got critique.
Anyone who says they don’t succumb to over sensitivity is lying.
@ Arent:
Talk about trying to move the goalposts! You said:
I said that scientific understanding of X and Y chromosomes has advanced to the point where we realize that there is more than just the two pairings, and gave you the example of a woman with XY chromosomes. Now you try to redefine the story by calling her “a 46 XY patient that developed as female”! Just accept that she is a woman, is identified as such in the paper, and happens to have chromosomes.
@ Curious Wanderer:
Nicely summarized!
Grace wrote:
As you can see from your very nice citation, I said that sex/gender is not determined by behavior but by x & y chromosomes. I never said that there were no hermaphrodites or no xxy etc.
Grace wrote:
I never said there were no hermaphrodites/xxy pairings or similar. You were the one who brought this up. This has nothing to do with the statement that sex/gender is not determined by behavior but by chromosomes.
Grace wrote:
Which does have a mixed karyotype & mutations on the X chromosome. Which means you proved that sex/gender is determined by the sex chromosomes and not by behavior 😉 Also, please note that “woman” here refers to her phenotype.
Grace wrote:
If they are talking about female or woman they refer to her phenotype. They do understand that she has both male and female characteristics:
Z wrote:
It. Is. Not. About. Trans. Issues.
It. Is. A. Bisexual. Girl. Stubbornly. Staying. Lesbian.
Z wrote:
The same stuff Jews and Muslims go through when they’re mocked for declaring their right to forcefully circumcise babies is important to their religion? Actually, no. It’s completely different. In the three situations, Jews, Muslims and Zoey. They are referring to doing it to someone else.
I keep hearing stories of young boys who go through a failed circumcision shortly after birth, who are then raised as girls. They are forced to transition and in their teens/early 20’s, or when they find out, they kill themselves. That sure drags that there average life expectancy thing down for you, doesn’t it?
Z wrote:
If by being a cis/het white male, not killing myself is stated to “cause deep and painful harm to marginalised people” you can bet that I’m going to stop caring about “marginalised people”. If my existence is inherently transphobic, homophobic, sexist and racist, then does it really matter what I do?
Yes, I have absolutely been told to off myself for each of these things. Yes, there have been numerous people who have declared each of those attributes to be inherently evil/destructive or whatever ism/phobic it can relate to.
As selfish as you think I’m being, at least when I tell someone I consider them “beneath me”, like I did you. I’m not demanding their death.
Z wrote:
Bias = Preference = Discrimination
Buy a dictionary, or just google each word and check for their synonyms.
In context of the comments between us, bigotry would be one of us reading the other state that “sexuality is discriminatory”, then using that to assert the other harassed and insulted others for a prolonged period, and deserved [consequences].
My first paragraph was about me being banned for saying something that will absolutely be acceptable to say on the website now.
Z wrote:
Gamer here, didn’t give much of a shit about the gamer stereotypes for a good number of years. Didn’t really care about the attacks on gamers for a good long while. Didn’t even care about the politics being aimed at games, because I knew that games journalists would have my back and that developers wouldn’t make games that state how vehemently they hate the fact I exist.
Then gamergate happened and the trust I had in games journalists to not attack me, was gone. Then there were games that had a specific political bent and/or the demand that all games be politicised a certain way. Well, let’s just say everyone who attacked my character just lost me as a customer, forever.
Z wrote:
I’ve pondered it for a long time and I have to ask, what do you mean when you say “equality”?
And what pros and cons do you see arising from it?
I just want to know if you’ve ever given it any serious thought.
@ Threadnaught:
Wow, this is an utter trash fire. Let’s go down the list, paragraph by nonsensical paragraph.
1. Once again, you failed to read what I actually wrote. It’s not ABOUT trans folks, it’s repeating a joke that is harmful to us. Trust us to know the “jokes” that get us killed.
2. What the actual fuck, man. Whatever “stories” you’ve heard were straight up lies. Do you get all your information from bigots on Youtube?
3. So, yes, sometimes you’ll hear LGBT people make jokes about oppressing cishet people. This is a joke shared among ourselves, imitating that which is told to us. Thing is, though, if you receive such comments, it’s not because you’re cishet. It’s because you’re a douche. And considering you actually think anyone is “beneath” you, that’s a pretty fitting descriptor. Like, wow. That’s Disney villain levels of blatantly evil. How do you not realize this?
4. I simply cannot trust that you have relayed what happened accurately. Nor do I care, really. Your statements here make it clear why no one wants to be around you. You need to do some serious self reflection, dude. You’re walking a very disturbing path.
5. I’m actually losing it that you think being a gamer is in any way comparable to being trans. And that you somehow shoehorned gamergate into this??? Like what the hell are you even on about. You’re not oppressed because you think games shouldn’t be “political.” Oppression has a body count. Also, newsflash: all media is “political.” Everything has a lesson or a moral behind it. It seems that you didn’t pay much attention to the fundamental concepts of kindness and critical thinking that most kids’ shows were trying to impart.
6. Technically I mean equity, not equality. But this nuance is unnecessary to discuss in most situations. And, like… if you’re actually acting as if treating people fairly has cons… wow. Those are some pretty messed up morals you’ve got there. I don’t think *you’ve* given this, or anything, any serious thought.
In conclusion, you need therapy, dude. And you need to be more selective about who and what influences you. Sooner or later you’re going to have to choose whether to keep yourself blind to your own privilege and the suffering of others, or actually bother to care about other people.
Anyway, I’m done here. Don’t expect me to take any more time trying to teach you the fundamentals of morality. That ain’t my job.
Z wrote:
You pretty much agree that I should kill myself and yet you wonder why I consider you “beneath me”?
I consider Nazis, Communists and other special interest groups that constantly call for the death of their specific undesirables, to also be “beneath me”. I won’t dehumanise them though, even if I do disagree with them on things like genocide.
Z wrote:
Why are you making things up about me? Stop gaslighting and learn English.
Z wrote:
Sorry, I was trying to hint at this quote.
“The mark of an immature man that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of a mature man he wants to live humbly for one.”
More gaslighting though.
Politics are fine, enforcing a specific political ideology as the correct and good one, while portraying any other way of doing things as EVIL NAZI which must be violently opposed By Any Means Necessary, is not.
Z wrote:
Still not really going into how you’d achieve it?
Just more gaslighting.
I never said anything about treating people fairly, all I asked you was about equality.
I think all people should be equal under the law and that other than that, diversity in how people choose to live their lives and the consequences of each person being different, are good things.
Okay so equality/equity, here’s how to guarantee it.
Humans, particularly ones born into a western European based culture, are individualistic creatures that don’t generally put “the greater good” ahead of themselves, their mate or their offspring. Equality or equity will not be possible as long as humans possess free will. Which is why for humanity to have complete equality, equity or whatever you call it, between every single human, a HELE is required.
Pros: World peace. No famine. A crime free world. No more borders. No billionaires profiting from the destitute and starving. An end to manmade pollution. I wouldn’t have someone who supports genocide talking down to me as if I’m morally inferior.
Cons: Let’s assume that the ratio for each person who could be truly considered to be a good person vs everyone else, is 1|999999, that’s over 7000 right there.
Call me “evil” all you want, but I do not want my species to go extinct just to satisfy someone’s unending demand for absolute equality.
You may have the last quip Ser.
I wish GCS was that easy =(
blackholefourspam wrote:
They clearly were *not* telling transgender people not to transition, they were saying to accept people for who they are and not try to *forcibly change them* into something they are not.
ZOEY NO
So, am I the only one who noticed that the music note on Alex’s shirt is the way back home symbol?
Soulless1 wrote:
Sad to hear this. It really is hard to find a good endocrinologist that can truly help you, even on this side of the pond where we have all these fancy “public healthcare” things.