[1169] Spooky Action At A Distance
└ posted on Monday, 13 April 2020, by Novil
- Yuna: In today’s episode of “Yuna’s World of Physics,” I would like to show you a typical example of the so-called “spooky action at a distance.”
- Yuna: One speaks of “spooky action at a distance” when changes in the state of elementary particles instantaneously lead to changes in entangled particles at a completely different location.
- Sandra: It’ll be days before dad comes back. We can’t stay alone that long. I’ll ask Mrs. Williams if we can stay with them until then.
- Woo: Do they have a guest room for you?
- Sandra: I don’t think so… But there should be more than enough space for me in Cloud’s bed!
- All atoms in Richard’s body: AAAAH!! | OH GOD, NO! | NO! NO! NO! | AUGH!! | RAAA!! | OWWW! | AHHHHHH!
- Yuna: In severe cases, the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen effect can turn an adult man into a whimpering pile of misery.
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You need to ask Mrs Williams for a glass of water, Sandra. Because you are being too damn thirsty!
Novil and Powree, you are indeed playing with us, and we (and the ship) more or less happily dance to you tune, but I hope you keep safe in these troubled time and that the Easter Bunny is generous to you. 🙂
Wolfhowl wrote:
Sandra may be thirsty, but people spending three days in the Sahara without water are still less thirsty than Jessie.
Meanwhile, the Devil observes Sandra remotely and makes a note to commend a certain succubus-in-training for being such an effective influence.
Careful there or opportunity may knock up.
Novil wrote:
Is Jessie from the game, or just a reference I’m not getting? Never played the game Cloud is named from, only barely know about it through general gaming culture. 😛
@ Wolfhowl:
Haven’t played the FF7 remake yet, but from what I understand, one of the female characters got much more screentime compared to the original, and that extra time got filled with her being thirsty af for the main character Cloud.
Sandra, Wow. I knew you were a typical teenager, but wow.
Uncredited: Larisa is off-screen, coaching Sandra.
I’m… sure that Mrs Williams would give a Sandra a sleeping bag… and perhaps even settle her in Yuna’s room.
Still, I was wondering if Sandra had any adult supervision during Richard’s trip.
@ ValdVin:
We are on the same wavelength … sort of …. I was thinking this is shaping up to be a dream Larisa is having
Funny thing is i don’t think Richard has to worried. I bet Cloud still remembers that talk from his mother in an earlier strip involving her sword.
I must be old. I don’t get any of those references.
@ AnotherBear:
I am old but I got most of the references and inferred others from the context. Quantum entanglement is a really weird thing. Theoretically two quantum entangled particles will act simultaneously across vast distances. If you could separate them. Imagine two particles hundreds if not thousands of light-years apart acting exactly the same when acted upon. Not a hyperdrive but a hypernet. Information could be transmitted both ways instantly.
@ Gamesman:
Thanks. I looked up both the EPR and ‘spooky action’ and the definitions weren’t anywhere near as clear as yours. Good job, that Martian.
You know what Sandra? I think Ye Thuza would actually be on board with idea if it was presented THAT way
And for Strike Three, Sandra sms her father about Japanese favourite condoms flavours.
sms to be played out loud
in front of Hitomi
Throwaway account but is anybody else uncomfortable with the escalating amount of weirdly sexual jokes about these children? And the flanderization in general.
They’re supposed to be around 12 to 13, as far as I know there hasn’t been any stated aging, but please correct me if I’m wrong.
Early on it was a big deal when a dramatic arc culminated in Sandra and Cloud’s first kiss. There was one or two boner gags because preteens but this and other similar more recent comics feel just,,, icky.
Larissa started out as flirty but in a way that was sort of believable to that age range. Now she’s a literal succubus? Yuna was a precociously smart little girl and now her whole character is that she’s some super genius.
I feel like some of the appeal to the comic when it started was that there was some fantastical elements (talking racoon, obvi), but it was still grounded in a believable world where bad things happen. We knew early on that larissa was sick. We knew sandra’s mom died. I feel like these more dramatic story elements have been kind of shoved aside in favor of more gags and sex jokes.
No hate, just my observations.
I dunno. Maybe it’s time I stop reading.
Well, Sandra might just have a repeat of 0925 instead, but I am sure that, for plot reasons, her course of action is more effective.
@ Moonbaby:
When’s the last time you listened to 13 year olds?
Last time I heard, surveys found one of the main insecurities students in the age bracket 12-14 face is “still being virgin”
And of course there is a difference between joking about it in private and actually doing it. Sandra’s tune would probably change very quickly once she’s over at Cloud’s place.
Moonbaby.
First, my condolences on your not having the courage of your convictions.
If you have a belief system that finds this unacceptable then please say so.
Second, I live in a very (sexually, publically anyway) conservative society and if you think that 13-year-olds don’t have sex lives then you need to read more widely.
Good luck.
@ Gamesman:
I am no physicist, but I don’t think quantum entanlement can be used that way, at least not in a way that we know of.
From my limited understanding, entanglement does mean synchronized states, but without a way to effect those states, you cannot communicate with it.
Imagine two coins which when tossed always land at the same side, however only when tossed fairly. Without a way to effect the outcome, you cannot communicate with these coins. (You can still use them for cryptography, because you do share a common information source.)
see also:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-communication_theorem
I wonder how Sandra would be affected by quantum entanglement if Richard and Hitomi start kissing.
@ Moonbaby:
Great idea. Bye!
@ Moonbaby:
If you teach people sex is evil you are also teaching them evil is sexy.
That said i always hold that media should always try to convince us that a *mature*, intimate, respectful, healthy relationship is the sexiest sex imaginable.
It’d be nice if some older characters got the chance to be sexy.
They will find a place for her real fast after she suggests that course of action.
@ rjberg:
Well to be honest we can’t even separate them at this point in our technology. It’s basically all theoretical until we find a way to manipulate them in the most basic ways. We are in some ways less knowledgeable about quantum mechanics than the first experimenters with electricity. We can’t even nail down what a photon truly is. Is it a wave or a particle? It acts like both. Yet we can use them to generate electricity or push a light-sail. We can even make photons. Science is weirder than most people understand and some of the weirdness lead to US. A lot of factors had to be just right for us to evolve to this point.
Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen effect? Watched too much “Sliders”? XD
… god I miss that show
Cloud’s last name is Williams? Is that a Star Trek reference?
@ Gamesman:
Quantum entanglement has been tested at various distances, and shown to seemingly work somehow faster than light. The scenario: Two subatomic particles are created in such a way as to be entangled. The particles are moved apart and some entangled property, such as spin direction is measured on one particle, then the other. Because of quantum entanglement, once we have measured the spin direction of one particle, the spin direction of the other particle is also set in a predictable manner. The spin direction of the first particle is random up until it is measured, then it is fixed and that information is somehow communicated to its entangled partner, faster than light. This is what Albert Einstein referred to as “spooky action at a distance.”
Einstein and some colleagues proposed that this was actually a case of hidden variables, that when the particles were originally created, their spin directions et al. were set at that point and we did not find out what those spins were until they were measured. So when you measured the spin of one particle, then the other, you were just finding out what was set in motion when the particles were entangled in the first place and nothing was being communicated after the fact.
To make a macroscopic example of hidden variables, imagine you have two glass marbles, identical except for their colour. Let’s make one blue and one red. You randomly select the two marbles and put each one into a small bag, in such a way that you can not tell which marble is in which bag. These bags are then separated by a great distance, say one going East and the other going West. The two bags are opened and the information that was set up at the beginning of the situation is now revealed; you now know if you have the red marble or the blue one. You can also tell with 100% certainty what colour the marble in the other bag must be, even before you check with the person who looked at the other bag. In this case, the hidden variable is the colour of the marble.
Quantum entanglement looks very similar to a hidden variable scenario, but it is a little different and a lot weirder. Multiple experiments have been able to determine that the entangled properties of the two particles really are random until measured, what is called a superposition of states. In a way, it would like a case where you could have either marble in your bag, but which one is in there is not determined until you open the bag and take a look. In some ways this parallels the Schrodinger’s Cat thought experiment where the cat could exist in a superposition of alive and dead until the box is opened and the cat is measured.
Oh come on… how old is Sandra? 13-14? she can certainly handle 2 weeks home alone. Assuming there is some money to pay for food delivery…
@ rjberg:
Yes, it’s not a very good description of quantum entanglement. It’s not a matter of if one particle changes its state, the other particle does. There’s no change involved: If you measure one entangled particle, you know what you’ll get if you measure the other, but since measurement breaks the entanglement, you couldn’t have previously measured it to know it changed. Presumably it was already in that state, and you just didn’t know it.
If you asked Sandra if she’d like to share a bed with Cloud, and at the exactly same moment asked her dad if he was nervous, the two answers would be correlated. BUT, only if you hadn’t done anything before to have an idea what either answer would be.
The tricky part is that almost any “measurement” breaks entanglement; If you’d asked her dad his opinion on anything, anything at all, the entanglement would be gone. That’s why you only see entanglement under laboratory conditions, or very, very short time frames. It’s easy to disturb!
Wow. Landline phone.
I can confirm this is real. It’s also called “parent pains.”
So we’re just skipping Richard’s reaction to being called a “cuck”?
The highschool i went to had a daycare that had 10-15 small children 2-4 yo of students, that was 20 years ago now. god i feel old. so yeah it happens but then again what do you expect when the body is ready as young as 10 with hormones that degrade cognitive functions till late 20s
Damn, finally this arc yielded a truly funny strip! Yay! Please, let’s stay with Sandra’s side of the story from now on.
MIB4u wrote:
it’s an actual thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPR_paradox
Half-Life-Zim wrote:
I used to teach sixth grade. Believe me, Sandra’s idea of sharing Cloud’s bed, while not the norm for the age, is far from an outlier. I had girls who were firmly convinced that getting married ASAP was a really attractive idea.
You can’t spell “Podolsky” without “spooky,” and you can’t spell “Einstein” without “sin.”
Besides, a signal can reach from the US to Japan in the time it takes for nerves to react.
@ Brett P Bellmore:
Collapsing the superposition is not the same as breaking the entanglement.
@ AnotherBear:
Marvin has more than just ‘theoretical’ knowledge. 😉
Don’t know if it is intentional, but the background shading gives is performing spooky actions when I scroll up and down…
Anonymous Alias wrote:
Sanda would totally be rooming with Yuna
I’m surprised she isn’t staying at Larissa’s.
@ leoryff:
Yeah, noticed that too. Tilt your head 90 degrees, it does more tricks.
@ Chasbanner:
You make a good point!
It was years ago now but I remember there being a SaW strip (or maybe it was a series of strips?) of each of the characters respective birth control talks that I found absolutely delightful. Funny, but balanced with a depiction of a healthy discussion.
I’m sorry if it came across that I think sex is somehow evil. It’s a perfectly legitimate topic for characters of this age range to be interested in. Mature, straightforward, and honest discussions of sex are a blessing, even if they’re super uncomfortable at the time.
It would be great to see the more gag heavy comics balanced out with depictions of the more realistic adult relationships of the series.
@ mersharr:
You’re not wrong.
I am looking at these now through the lens of an adult reader, but when I started reading I was still a teenager.
Young teenagers certainly do have a preoccupation with sex, and when consider this comic through the perspective of myself when I was a 13 year old girl it does sound less… out of character? Maybe “less inappropriate” would be better phrasing?
I distinctly remember one of my acquaintances trying to “seduce” a teacher on a 7th grade school trip (she opened the hotel door with seemingly no pants to see if he would react), but if the teacher had actually reacted we wouldn’t have known what to do.
@ Moonbaby:
Well put. Sorry I misjudged you.