[1283] Woohammer 40k
└ posted on Thursday, 29 July 2021, by Novil
I believe this awesome strip was worth the waiting time!
- Caption: It’s the year 41023 A.D. A few years ago, the Imperium of Man was on the verge of collapse as the orks were only four light years away from the Sol system. But the fortunes of war have turned once again…
- Orc #1: She koming!
- Orc #2: Gork help us!
- Orc #1: Dat woman iz not human! Always know wot da ork will do! She pure chaos, but she work for da imperium! It iz no fair!
- Orc #1: She da here!
- Orc #2: WAARGH!
![[1283] Woohammer 40k](/comics/2021-07-29-1283-woohammer-40k.jpg "[1283] Woohammer 40k")
Larisa is looking badass here, but I like Sandra most.
@ Robert S:
I’d love this 😀
…we’z gunna need a lot moar dakka.
Also, ironically Games Workshop has recently made VERY clear that they consider all use of their setting to be copyright infringement…
And they wonder why their profits are deep in the negative… must be all the unauthorized use
noname wrote:
not really. 40k gets a lot of fire from people from the more left side of politics, because they dont get the satire. people who actually play it, see it as a hobby where they shove platic soldiers over the table.
and dont foirget peta……
David wrote:
will Musolini and hitler be enough?
Musolini was starting from syndicalism, and he was an italian socialist. He however left the socialist movement because he spend a decade when that movement did not achieve anything for anyone.
Socialists were detested by Musoliny because of lack of action?
and as far as Hitler goes:
“Why bother with such half-measures when I have far more important matters in hand, such as the people themselves?” he exclaimed. “The masses always cling to extremes. After all, what is meant by nationalization, by socialization? What has been changed by the fact that a factory is now owned by the State instead of by a Mr. Smith? But once directors and employees alike have been subjected to a universal discipline, there will be a new order for which all expressions used hitherto will be quite inadequate.”
Kaze Koichi wrote:
Sandra should have been more of a Skitarii…
Paeris Kiran wrote:
So just to finish it – fascists eliminating “socialists” is nothing more then Stalinists killing Trockists.
Klaus wrote:
No, for several reasons. Author is from Germany, not the US, and the “About” section says it’s published under German law. And DMCA takedowns don’t apply to things you publish yourself on your own site – they apply to things your *users* create, like these comments.
Definitely worth the wait. Hats off to Powree for this.
@ Arent:
Arent wrote:
My point is specifically that fascism and socialism are not only different, but diametrically opposed. Socialism claims to seek prosperity, agency, and a voice in government for all citizens. Whether they do or not, that is the claim. Fascism virtually always seeks to defend the privileges of an elite. That elite may be national (case: racial hierarchy of Nazis, Fascist Italy, and Imperial Japan) or socioeconomic (Fascist Spain, Latin America) but the goal is always to protect the economic and political power of the few by stripping them it the many. So, the idea that fascism is somehow a subset of socialism makes neither historical nor ideological sense. Historically, they hated each other. Ideologically, they are incompatible.
Also, I feel the need to point out that worker’s protections, public education, women’s rights, and coop businesses are staple features of both American and European life. By equating those with socialism (which, to be fair, isn’t wrong; they are socialist policies), you’re essentially claiming that the U.S. and European states are socialist. Maybe their ideas weren’t all bad after all.
@ Paeris Kiran:
And yet, neither Mussolini nor Hitler nationalized industry. In fact, they went to great extremes to court industrial magnates. Looking at their policies, I have a hard time identifying a single socialist policy of that zeitgeist in their platforms. Hitler outlawed worker’s unions, save for the “union” under his government’s control. That union deliberately weakened worker’s protections and wages rather than fighting to improve them. Hitler banned women from most jobs, in stark contrast to the Big Bad Soviets. Both Mussolini and Hitler distrusted academics and kept them under strict surveillance and control, precisely because they did not want academic liberty to undermine their ideologies. I could go on here, but in short, Hitler and Mussolini may have used socialist rhetoric at times, but their actions and policies were anything but. And frankly, once they gained power in the right, even that rhetoric faded quickly.
David wrote:
That sounds very socialistic to me.
David wrote:
The state of freedom of expression in US and EU is worsening too.
Socialists always talked a lot about how they oppose fascism. Under that, there was a strong implication of “therefore, if you are not socialist you are fascist”. But that axe doesn’t leave any space for freedom and liberty. Meanwhile, if you ignored the ideology and looked at results, there was lot of similarities between those two. Sure the socialistic state protected the economic and political power of the few by stripping them it the many. The elite doing that were high members of the Party.
Now about the strip: The orcs talk about single woman. Which one? The image suggests it’s Larisa, but the description COULD work on all of them … except, of course, the bit about not being human, which MIGHT match more to Larisa, either because she will be Sucubus or because she’s descendant from the snake, as mentioned in one historical strip.
David wrote:
To the contrary, *everyone* claims they are peaceful and tolerant – even IS, Hamas, Kim Jong Un, Yusra Khogali, Mahathir Mohamad, Mao, Stalin, Hitler – they all loudly criticize ‘militarism’ and ‘ethnic prejudice’, racism – and then proceed to install militarist dictatorships and wipe out ethnic groups :O
What someone claims is irrelevant, what they do is what is important. If I believe what is said in ‘Inspire’, the propaganda magazine of IS, they are all for “equality” and “workers rights” and “womens’ rights” 😉
The only argument you can muster is that the descent of socialist states into militarist police states is not deliberate but just a side effect of errors in their ideology. And if that’s the case, they have to review their ideas and come up with better ones.
@ noname:
Yes, that’s the one.
@ mersharr:
Hello Kitty Marines is a thing though.
Just like the Angry Marines not automatically aligned with Khorne.
Ok, perhaps, just like the Pretty Marines, some of them maybe fallen to Slaanesh.
@ mersharr:
And that is The actual joke. Probably.
Maybe Powree and/or Oliver an avid fan of the recently taken down “If The Emperor had Text-to-Speech Device” skits ?
Yes. It Was.
@ Nick/Tyrong:
It makes sense from the viepoint of efficiency.
The emperor simply amplifiyd what was already in man´s nature. Had he done that with woman, he had to take extra steps in the transformation, which would mean an already complex procedure would become even more complex and the rate of failure, which is also high, would explode.
David wrote:
nationalization of industry – according to Hitler – was needless particularity. Something thats utterly unncessary as it does not work what was called “human condition” (this is idea he shared with Musolini)
IT was assumption that human is in principle a individualistic entity which mostly looks for own self-interest.
Thus – it was not a goal to break this human condition, but in fact meerely allign it this human condition with greater whole – the State.
Why bother nationalizing an industry which is already run by a convicted “national socialist” (or fascist) which is already ideologically aligned with the party and it serves a state already?
Said “mr Smith” has always proven more efficient in running the industry then any “committee” assigned by party.
but in fact – when given Mr. Smith was NOT running the industry according to party (and thus state needs) it was very swiftly “nationalized” and Mr Smith replaced by someone who adheres to party and state doctrine.
Communism branch of socialism on the other hand either dismissed the “human condition” notion altogether, or just saw it as something that needs to be changed in fundmanet. Thus – state owned company outright. And well – I have to say – Both Mussoliny and Hitler were correct in this regard – the collective ownership proved inadequate to any form of competition…
Quite funny from today – China´s industries are operated more under the Hitler/Musolini system then on any communist system now.
As long as you are a nice toy to the party and state, run your bussiness as well as possible, if you seize to be we will replace you.
Quite frankly – its blatantly absurd how virtually every system is shouted by current leftist to be “fascist” for one miniscule thing, yet virtually every other “socialist” system is just “not true socialism.”
Its only few hundreth times in human history where people made socialism wrong. And sure all of them were different in something. (like – its really insane to repeat identical thing and expect different result… thus the miniscule changes)
Just add Hitler and Musoliny next to Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Chavez… as just another version of socialists who just failed to do it right. That would at least grant you consistency.
@ Paeris Kiran:
And quite frankly – if not in goals – Hitler would likely applaud the principle of how corporations like Alphabet, Facebook and such do embrace “ideological doctrines” and delete hatespeech thats not alligned with what governments pass as hatespeech.
Corporations cooperating with government doctrines… willingly – does not matter if for bottom line, or for actual convictions… just that its the “universal harmony” of “collective happiness”.
Quite frankly George Orwell sumarrized it best in 1944
the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley’s broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else … Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathisers, almost any English person would accept ‘bully’ as a synonym for ‘Fascist’. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come
The God Emperor shines his everlasting light upon these heroes of the Imperium.
Go forth and purge the heresy, the chaos and the traitors!
XD
Enjoy this comic, before Games Workshop files a DMCA takedown request.
So THESE are the two lost primarchs ?
Makes so much sense…
@ Scorpinator:
Makes ‘double’ makes sense, when ‘The Lost Primarch’, as much speculated, are actually Matriarch.
Arent wrote:
Well, the lawsuit may still come.
Another web comic (order of the stick) explored the legalities of character copying/satire when the order encountered a ‘poor copy’ of Dzzt.
Thankfully, the order managed to ‘convince’ said copy to leave permanently.
@ Mugel:
(Looks at women athletes and soldiers) I mean, that might be what GW wrote, but you DO realise it’s bullshit, right?
This comic is amazing!
As someone who doesn’t play Warhammer, I switched to this tab with the image fully loaded and initially misread “Woohammer” as “Woodhammer”. After my eyes corrected me but before I noticed the first row of panels, I immediately envisioned a Pokémon battle with Sandra, Woo, and co.
As for the ACTUAL strip presented: Hitomi looks so badass. I have less than no interest in the setting of Warhammer 40,000 but Hitomi looks badass and that’s all I care about.
Well, I came back too late, but thanks to all the people who answered for me.
For myself, I’ll just say that cliches and self-promoting claims do not make defenses.
Valkeiper2020 wrote:
Noy really he appeared again but Vaarsuvius managed to figure out a way how to defeat enemy specifically designed to defeat him…
Mhplayer wrote:
It nothing to do with poticao view why they suck. It the go out their way tomscrew their retailers and even employs why they suck.
They force retailers if they want to sell their stuff, to handled the transaction in such away not only give them not just thensale mentretics but ordier is away then the retailmallways carring debt with them
And the moment the stores salemfigure reach a threqshild, the remain immeday payment of the debt (often cause the hobbymstory to close) and Own their own store as close to thenretailer’s location as possible.
So the gaming community loosenacess to a store that sells multiple brands, together an almost mono bran store to replace it
roguebfl wrote:
pure art
@ Paeris Kiran:
They can and do. The Sisters of Battle are entirely outfit in power armor, and the Inquisition makes use of both power armor and Terminator plate, and all without the black carapace.
My only real criticism of it is the heretical modifications to Hitomi’s armor, and that the Orkz aren’t nearly chunky enough and lack the propa’ amount of slouch and clearly are missing their trademark dump truck boots.
I would have thought Hitomi would have a heart shaped mace/magical girl wand. Missed opportunity.
@ Arent:
If the Emperor had a Text to Speech Device went on indefinite hiatus after 8 years of production because of their new (as in three/four days ago) rules for fanworks (basically none allowed or they will sue you)
@ mersharr:
There was a space marine army back in around 2nd ed that was Hello Kitty themed. The woman who ran it was VERY good.
Slaaneshi? Only probably, but there is real world precedent for that without going into chaos….which is far less fun than it being an entire chapter of Chaos marines in waiting.
Careful, lad. Games Workshop is gonna come after you if you keep this up.
Yes!
Sandra looks she escaped from Girl Genius, and Hitomi looks like the dokigrrlz from First Contact, one of the better stories in the r/HFY world.
@ noname:
That would be correct, yes.
@ Paeris Kiran:
No.
Facism and socialism are extremely different systems. Most socialist systems have rapidly devolved into destructive and unequal dictatorship, just as facist ones have – but Socialism is explicitely about the public control of recources in a non-heirarchical society. Facism celebrates hierarchy as natural and correct. To equate socialism and facism is not only grossly incorrect, it is intellectually lazy. One might as well call facism “failed attempts at libertarianism” – the facist leaders, after all, could be seen as successful people exploring their Randian Objectivist selves.
When Socialists say that a system is not truly socialist if it is run by an oligarchic clique, they are simply stating the truth: state control of resources is not socialist if the wider populace do not in turn control the state. To argue otherwise, you might as well include absolute monarchy in the broad brush of “socialism”.
Then again, equating Castro, Stalin and Chavez is also more than a bit ridiculous. Stalin adhered broadly to communist dogma, but in practice preserved a hierarchical society with little social mobility after the initial revolution (and he primarily targeted socialists as his victims). Castro built a model that is perhaps the closest, with a welfare-oriented pseudo-democratic one party state at least partly subject to popular choice. Chavez advocated a transition to social democracy, with state-funded welfare programs and subsidised staples – but it never got off the ground, and Venezuela today is still a broadly capitalist country, more so than many European “social democracies”. Chavez *also* remained committed to the democratic process right up until his death (unlike his successor), and so exists in an entirely different world to the others listed.