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└ posted on Saturday, 20 July 2024, by Novil
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What’s the logic behind the women being the proposal? I imagine it has something to do with the limitations on “soulforce” but… well, there’s a reason men do it in our European/American civilizations.
If it’s just “it’s a fantasy setting” alright. I tend to like rationalizing major departures from reality in some fashion. It’s overall importance isn’t that huge.
“No thanks, I prefer blondes”
@ Carefulrogue:
…what’s the reason that men do it western civilizations?
My wife proposed to me first, though my later proposal was better: at the renaissance festival, in costume, with me on bended knee. We knew we were going to wed, things were accelerated with the diagnosis of her father having cancer.
Nineteen years last month!
@ Bob:
Historically, women did not have the same rights as men. For a long time, they were seen as second class citizens at best, property at worst. So the proposal wasn’t so much to the woman, but more to the father (the previous owner). Marriage was then the handover of ownership from the father to the husband (hence the tradition of the father handing over the bride to the groom).
Luckily we have moved past that (in most parts of the world). But old traditions die hard.
@ Mikaru86:
All that makes sense, I just asked the question because the OP made it sound like they were in favor of the tradition of men proposing and I was curious to hear why.
@ Mikaru86, @ Bob:
Well, that’s maybe giving history a little short shrift there. Sure, in recent European history women didn’t quite have the same rights as men, but there’s more to it than simple ownership. Which wasn’t all that strong in Europe compared to elsewhere, anyway. You couldn’t buy or sell your wife, you’d have to be suitably impressive to earn her, if not from her, then from her father. Part of it is that women need (and want) protection. Hence name change, she’s now under her husband’s protection. Hence his show of commitment to her. He goes on his knee and asks. He is to take the risk of rejection in public.
Which can be as public as a radio DJ on national radio asking his girlfriend, and she says no. Now what?
So I’m with @ Carefulrogue, in that I’d like to see a better justification than “oh yeah, in this world it’s the woman who usually asks”.