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My comment for this page from Gaia: sic mundus creatus est:I love the visual effect of the spell in the last panel! Lilith’s Ultima spell was strongly influenced by Final Fantasy VII’s Ultima spell. It can be seen at youtu.be/a1lQ6kQ93fI
It’s my favorite magic spell in a video game because of its unusual sound effect. This is the reason why Lilith’s spell is green. It has nothing to do with the existence of a “Greenstream” as some readers speculated.
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Something something, death of the author, GREEN STREAM CONFIRMED
During the first run of the comic, when I first came across it, it was on this page. It was the night before I was going in for some surgery, only time in my life so far, and I was certainly nervous.
I came across this page, decided to read it from the start, rewound… and read it all in one day. It certainly helped calm my nerves, and I loved the comic — enough to donate to the Patreon under a very disadvantageous exchange rate.
This page certainly brings a lot of memories, and I’m happy to see it again.
We love a good FF7 reference. The effect is brilliantly done 😀
Answers we got: Does Bhaal exist? Bhall really did talk to Eldor. Can Lillith cast a shield so hard that Bhaal can’t break it?
Answers we could have gotten out of this: Any.
What was the plan? WHY was the plan? What did Eldor want out of the time suspension shield? Was Bhaal’s goal just to be chaotic? What will happen to the redstream without Bhaal? The TSS, Lillith breaking the TSS, the soul sphere girls, are to build the tower Wave Motion Gun, or close enough. The tower was to break the TSS, But what was inside the TSS? Betting slips? Eldor’s girlfriend? The keys to the Enterprise? Rosebud the sled?
There was the old plot point that Lillith was going to cast a spell that would destroy an area the size of a small kingdom. It looks like she’s going to aim that at Bhaal’s face. 🙂
@ Vicious Sand:
For the last time:
Eldor wanted the time suspension sheld around the Source (of All Souls) gone so that Bhaal could control the Spiritstream as she could before Gaia stopped her (and, as Bhaal’s side of the story goes, plunged the world in darkness). Bhaal has even told as much only two pages ago.
In Edor’s mind, the plan would have probably restored the status quo before that time; Bhaal’s true planned actions are, of course, unknown, but at this point, it’s all moot anyway.
We’ll see what happens to the Redstream.
The time suspension shield surrounded (and still surrounds) the Source; that’s its purpose. Nothing else is inside it now.
Given Lilith’s historic expertise with shield spells, it really wouldn’t surprise me if her “Ultima” spell is literally a containment shield that reflects and magnifies all of the energy within the sphere of the spell back inwards. In effect, creating a laser of sorts, reflecting it back again and again and again. The more energy something inside it expends against it, the greater the effect. Something rathter similar to the ttrpg Shadowrun’s “chunky salsa” rules for grenades. Namely, that shockwaves get reflected, so you don’t want to be in a confined space with any kind of explosive…
In any case, having her Ultima spell be a shield/containment type spell of some kind just seems very, very appropriate. She’s all about protecting things, not blowing things up. She can, of course. But that’s not her real strength, her expertise, and her focus. Her real motivation has always been about protecting people, so it’s always been really incomprehensible that the prophesied mega spell she would cast would be an extra-super-powerful-fireball (or similar).
Eldor’s (or Bhaal’s, it doesn’t mind) plan is a shitty blunder:
https://www.sandraandwoo.com/gaia/2025/04/16/the-last-queen-of-gaia-016/
I think there is no room to think otherwise. Both Bhaal and Eldor don’t have a fucking clue what they are doing. So I don’t understand which kind of logic could be applied here apart from “useless people screwing everything (literally) up”.
Labelling Eldor and Bhaal’s effort as just a pile of garbage is pretty short sighted and does a diservice to our protagonists, and Lilith in particular. It’s like saying that someone’s bad at playing a strategy game because they lost to an opponent who had hacked the game to be able to see everything in advance. Losing because someone changed the rules of the game without telling them doesn’t make them planners, it just means they didn’t plan as well as Lilith did.
@ Icarus:
Your answers don’t match up with events in the comic, and what few answers we got out of Eldor’s answers during the Eldor vs San scene. The Source-located TSS was not unlocked, as well.
@ Vicious Sand:
Where exactly do they not match up? Do you want line-by-line citations? I could do that if I had an afternoon to kill, but I dont’t really have.
@ Zitchas:
Most human history is a pile of garbage, precisely made by short-sighted (your words, actually they have very good sight, the problem is they see in the wrong direction and don’t want to see anything more) and blunder makers. Precisely it is the most difficult task to fight against this. As certain person very well described, stupids are the most dangerous people, they harm themselves and of course all surrounding them until their reach. An inteligent evil person is far less dangerous, because he/she doesn’t want harm him/herself.