- Clerk: Miss Carolus, do you accept Tibor Frey from Tatsos as your new legal guardian?
- Scarlet: Yes, I do.
- Clerk: May I ask for Scarlet’s birth certificate and certificate of citizenship?
- Tibor: They’re both in Milik.
- Clerk: Well, then you’ll have to ask for new copies of the documents in Karsth’s town hall.
- Tibor: I’m afraid Karsth has also been conquered by Grondar.
- Clerk: …
- Clerk: Mr. Goldwood?
- Levon Goldwood: Yes?
- Clerk: We have a problem. That girl no longer exists legally and there’s no one who could vouch for her existence!
- Levon Goldwood: Oh dear! What are we going to do about that?!
- Tibor: This will take a while.
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14 thoughts on “A Sky Full of Stars 003”
Kazuma Taichi
I have often found myself pondering the repercussions of being in a modern location with no documents of your existence. I imagine refugees often go through this process, so there must be some manner in which governments handle it, but I imagine it can’t be easy even for an adult, and here Scarlet is definitively not that
HKMaly
Considering how often refugees end up with obviously wrong identity (like claiming to be children when adult or vice versa) I would say governments handle it badly, but on the other hand, hard to get real data if the government who know who you are doesn’t want to tell because it doesn’t want you to leave?
Ash Enone
The largest case of this I’m, personally, aware of is the immigration of around 1 million people from europe to the US in 1907 through Ellis Island. In this immigration, those going into the US did not need a passport, visa, or any other kind of documentation, submitted to a medical examination, a primary inspection, and verified for self-sufficiency. Past that, they created documentation that may actually misspell their surname or family names from the original in an attempt to rush them through to move to the next person. Obviously this has changed quite a bit, but taking in a million people in a single year is quite a task.
Dan
They’re probably going to need a 27b-6.
Apophis22
Filed in triplicate, and if there are maiden name changes, you will also need Addendum 4c of Form 5571a.
Jim Baerg
Possibly an ID10-T form
Vicious Sand
Bureaucrats. There’s nothing that they cannot make worse.
Since they’re both unpersons (for losing two pieces of paper), would a marriage certificate count as legal proof of existence? 😀
Lukas
There is an old Polish novel about a surgeon who was brutally mugged of all his money and documents, lost his memory and worked as a quack doctor. Before he settled in, he was arrested multiple times for vagrancy and lack of legal papers until during one arrest he stole someone’s identity.
Vicious Sand
So that’s why people ‘used to leave their door unlocked’ in the old times- they never know on Monday where they’d be living by Friday! 🙂
bh
“No longer exists legally” is a pretty overdramatic way of putting it, for a bureaucrat. Not even counting refugees from wars, town halls burn down sometimes. And nobody suggests that the newly undocumented people no longer exist.
Tbolt
Ah! The bureaucrat’s dilemma: If a tree falls in the woods, and it is not documented, did it ever exist in the first place! =^^=
Although, that is one of the most efficient guardianship transfers I have ever seen…
Rüti
In such cases, as far I heard in a documentation, you could get temporary papers.
Our country we have an institution called KESB (child and adult protection agency) that will take over and look for the child. In such horrible times, as in this story, I assume that they will have no capacity to look for every victim of war.
xellos
The legal situation of a child is complicated.
A child mostly can’t “do stuff” that law regulates, so there’s no need for papers beyond a birth certificate – for practical purposes, just an official record about age and guardianship. It’s possible to be directly enrolled in other stuff like social security (giving a SSN) or school that will give proof of enrollment if needed or a passport if travelling abroad, but the gov’t interacts with a child mostly through parents or other guardians, and by default, a child won’t carry papers and is only guaranteed to have a birth certificate, somewhere at home. Moreover, except for the passport (because there’s a huge push to have at least some sort of reasonable standards in passports), those documents are ridiculously easy to fake in many countries. You can’t really do shit with an unattended child’s identity other than hoping that the child is known to someone or wants to tell you their identity in truth.
I work with this stuff – worldwide digital enrollment with plastic cards and paper documents, spoofing/antispoofing. Many identity documents (ids) don’t follow a consistent standard or are printed in such a way that you can’t distinguish between a good fake and an average id. If you have a digital database of everyone with a given type of id, you can check if an entry is real, but what if you’re making one and someone comes in to register with a fake? Here in Slovakia, opening a bank account for a child gives the option of bringing in a birth cert, since as I said, there’s no guarantee that any other id exists, and those birth certs are plain paper forms with manually filled in entries (at least not by hand, nowadays…) by a local officeworker, signatures and a stamp. Zero protective markers. Not one type of form, various types.
No telling what kind of magitech these guys have, but if making a fake id isn’t an option, it’s way better than IRL.
Crystalgate
So, Grondar did successfully take some terrain. Judging by the fact that they killed the civilians, Grondar probably has access to more potential farmers than they have farmland for those farmers and the idea is to migrate the excess farmers to the conquered farmland. If they lacked both farmland and farmers, it would have been better to leave the civilians alive.
The Grondans also dug tunnels into the territory they attacked rather than just crossing the border, indicating that Kirelia had proper defenses set up near the border that they had to circumvent. The Grondar attack is mostly falling into place now.
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