[0603] Puff
└ posted on Thursday, 31 July 2014, by Novil
- Husband: What’s up, honey? You’re looking worried.
- Dorothy Cambridge: Oh, it’s nothing. I just had a talk with the mother of one of my male students.
- Dorothy Cambridge: She made some bizarre threats, but that’s about it.
- Husband: Don’t let the haters get you down!
- Dorothy Cambridge: Now I’m in the right mood to finish my blog post about how gender equality can only be achieved by castrating all boys and drilling a hole into them.
- Husband: Go ahead!
- Dorothy Cambridge: Hmm, where’s my laptop?
- Husband: Honey, shall I make you a sandwich?
![[0603] Puff](/comics/2014-07-31-0603-puff.png "[0603] Puff")
In the midst of the things she was trying to say,
in the midst of her laughter and glee.
She was swiftly and silently vanished away,
for Cloud’s mom is Ye Thuza, you see.
(thank you Lewis Carroll )
Apparently, when that man’s parents saw him at birth, all they could think was “He’s going to be a husband someday!” and it stuck.
He kept feeding that twit a bunch of sandwiches… Look where it has gotten him…
Wow, Ye Thuza : O
For those who may be interested in learning what feminism is actually about:
Finally, A Feminism 101 Blog
Shakesville: Feminism 101
Feminism and Women’s Studies
WomenWatch (a United Nations site)
Southern Poverty Law Center intelligence report on “men’s rights activism”
Apparently my last comment is “awaiting moderation,” despite the fact that I’ve posted here before lots of times. So, to be on the safe side…My comment, without HTML links.
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For those who may be interested in learning what feminism is actually about, please Google any of the following:
“Finally, a Feminism 101 Blog”
“Shakesville: Feminism 101”
“Feminism and Women’s Studies”
“WomenWatch” (a United Nations site)
“Men’s Rights Movement Spreads False Claims about Women” (a Southern Poverty Law Center report)
Well looks like Mr. Detector can finally take a load off.
Already called G.U.N. And Robotnik for ya. It was good because they were afraid that they didn’t have enough of the equitment to eleminate Cambridge. We can all rest now.
Also drilling holes in men? Dafaq U be smokin woman????
You are not a feminist (Psychoshy music plays) you are a Male hating hypocritical biased ignorant
Foul mouth idiotic MURDERER! That’s right we all thought Larissa was the crazy one. We even thought that ol Harriet was the extreme biased jerk. We all thought Ye Thuza was the only one planning on killing some one. But YOU Cambridge… You top them all! Now before anyone says Cambridge isn’t a murderer think of this. What would you think Cam would do if she had a gun? Not a machine or an expensive one. (Even though there all expensive in their own way.) but just a pistol.
She would indeed kill someone in power. Sure she’ll get time in the slammer. But that didn’t stop King or X. Did it? Like MLK and X she’ll get stronger. But not for the same reasons as King and X. She’s got some unresolved issue that drives her insane.
Hey who knows, maybe she had an abusive father, or a bad boyfriend. Although it baffles me that she still has a husband. So anyways if one were to let this demon flower grow. It will only sprout more demon flowers. Soon All the Mimigas will be doomed. So that’s why we take off the Mr. X costume to see the real villain fly away to an even bigger castle! Folks feminist want equality and fair rules! It’s just like any other movement like the civil rights movement or a labor union. This Woman is a deranged loonatic! So Fight Ye Thuza!!! Show the world what a true female role model should look like!
Also you just lost the gang.
Problem? 🙂
the magic dragon~ Lived by the see
Well, thank Rassilon for Ye Thuza. And *puff* goes the extremist- I find that a fitting fate. 🙂
@ An Cat Dubh:
Up until now, this could have been a performance-art sociology lesson intended to demonstrate the dangers of radicalism and, by inversion, the dangers of sexual discrimination.
However, she kept it up at home and her husband/significant other accepts it as normal, which indicates that this is who she really is . . .
I’d say she’s a Little Tin God, motivated by power over others.
LTGs are drawn to positions that give them power over other people, which they inevitably abuse and misuse for their own benefit and for the detriment and abuse of others.
Logically, then, you absolutely do not want a LTG to have any kind of power.
And to punish a LTG . . . remove the power forever. (A LTG will never forgive you for that.)
Finally, she’s not a feminist . . . she’s a Little Tin God whose form is feminism . . . a shell to hide her true motivation, power to abuse others.
–FreeFlier
Well if anyone would know about vanish+doom….
@ L33tmaster:
Nope, just your basic Beta.
And with that this “Worm” of a “Womyn” was sent to the cornfield, never to be heard from again.
@ alicemacher:
The Southern Poverty Law Center is a hate group that poses as a civil rights organization. The worst part is they can slander whomever they want, they have the money and power to do so with absolutely no check and balances. They are the American Gestapo.
Cloud’s mom rules! Ye Thuza is my hero!
@ Van:
He he, no body, no proof of a crime.
She wouldn’t have even needed to say “sudo make me a sandwich.”
If you replaced her with a man with corresponding misogynistic views, the MRAs would be cheering.
Glad this ridiculous sequence is (almost) over.
Where will she dispose of the body? What’s for dinner?
Wait up, she literally vanished without a trace. Just like Ye Thuza said.
…so the Saudi Arabia thing was just to mislead everyone?
I’m actually darkly curious what she would have said about Ye Thuza now.
She must have ran into a Boojum.
And the lesson of the day is that minority voices in power should not exist. Yay!
@ Luke:
Not uncommon, really.
@ Jabberwock:
Elements that have been bleeding into the common feminism for a while now. There are a lot of lies that started out there and have become “common knowledge” to feminists. So much feminist activity is predicated on these lies, and these lies also tend to encourage misandric attitudes.
@ alicemacher:
Thanks for the resources, Alice, but the sad part is that most of the people who could be best served by reading them have already made up their minds on how the world works and will be patting each other on the backs as this thread continues.
This whole arc was both ham-handed and unnecessary. Novil created a caricature of a mustache-twirling villain and then tacked feminism onto her, which served only to muddy the waters. Did anyone really need to be shown that extremism isn’t cool? Did anyone really need to be told that the various feminist movements contain some extremists, just like any other movement?
If this had instead been an extremist “Black Power” figure instead of an extremist “Feminism” figure, most people would have been much less eager to call for that character’s blood, and those that did would have found much less support (or at least I hope they would) and sympathy for their views. And although extremist people in the causes and organizations dedicated to black enfranchisement do exist, almost no one sees any need to create a fictional example of one to be lampooned into grotesquery, paraded about, and then executed off-panel like Dorothy Cambridge was. To do so would be tasteless at best, just as this whole story arc was tasteless at best.
I’m not sure what this story arc has accomplished besides alienated a lot of moderate feminists and given the fedora-wearing crowd a chance to vote each other up even more than they already do. I will be glad to see the end of this, and I hope that Novil will go back to making stories about characters that might include some social commentary (like the arc before this) rather than social commentary that just happens to be acted out by his characters.
Now let’s watch the downvotes pour in…
To be clear, silencers are actually rather loud in an enclosed area, especially indoors.
@ Jabberwock:
Yeah. I’ve said since she was introduced that she wasn’t a real feminist.
This is my first post, but I’ve been reading the comments on this thread now, and there is a point here that everyone seems to be missing.
This isn’t about Feminism, this is about child abuse. That is something that is horribly horrible wrong and evil, regardless of the banner you fly to justify it.
Please people, let’s keep our priorities in perspective.
But oh, beamish feminist, beware of the day,
If his mother be Ye Thuza! For then
You will softly and suddenly vanish away,
And never be met with again!
Martin Cohen wrote:
Oh. Wait. Hold on here. So people are upset and riotous over the portrayal of one of the absurdly silly feminists out there – and make no mistake, there are people who think, talk, and act exactly like this woman, to the degree of wholeheartedly supporting the thought of killing off the entirety of the world’s male population – but it’s entirely fair for you to state that the whole Men’s Rights movement is full of people who are exactly the same?
You see.. right there? That massive chasm in your viewpoint? That’s called gender inequality. Female activists are never like that, but male ones always are is a ludicrously imbalanced statement.
@ Luke:
I know! I would have expected a wife, girlfriend, or living hopelessly alone with a picture of her ex boyfriend as a dartboard.
@ Greg Taylor:
the worst thing that she did was order one of her MASKED thugs to assault her son. that happened to my kid, I would have the school shut down, and both the teacher and principle thrown in jail
let’s not forget about boarding up the boy’s room so they wouldn’t pee. Take off your blinders, this is Child abuse.
Martin Cohen wrote:
Ummm. . . EWWW!
I hate myself for this comment, because I think this discussion does not belong here, but can’t help it…
Equal rights and voting rights spell the same to me in a democracy. If you may vote, you may choose who represents you the best. If you may stand for an election, you have a good choice what you can do when you feel there is noone who represents you and people like you well enough.Roughly half of the world is female, and roughly half is male. Roughly 90% (discuss if you must, I have nothing to back that number up) of the representatives in democracies are male. That must mean that at least part of women have chosen a male to represent them.
In my eyes, anyone who says women need more rightst than that is saying either the women are too stupid to choose the best to represent them or that they are not fighting for equality but for positive discrimination, and I can not agree with either of that. To me it seems, S&W share that view.
And finally, I also find democracy sucks, I am in the minority, stupider people with less pay are the majority, so democracy hurts me and helps them… but life is unjust, and the women are definitely no minority 🙂
Kinda wish she learned something but I suppose some people would never learn
Irish Farsi U2 fan what?
I am lost @An Cat Dubh
Is that the tip of a sword I can see in the second frame, just to the right of the speech bubble?
@ Passerby: On the other side of the gender divide, something very similar is actually done to a great many girls and women: FGM.
@ Frank:
No. I imagine when he realizes she’s gone, he’ll strip down to underwear, put on Spike TV and start yelling, “I’M FREE!!!!!”
@ Threadnaught:
I thought those did well though. The christian, for example, was contrasted by her husband, a more reasonable christian. The lesbian showed people a bit more of what that entails, and what someone who doesn’t fit in has to go through. This, while it was okay, didn’t do that as well in my opinion. It’s still fine, it’s just a little disappointing.
@ DLKMusic:
Would intentionally impairing a specific group of children’s ability to learn to benefit another group that you liked more count as child abuse?
Cause yeah, feminism’s even got that. Happened in the 90’s, when feminists decided that girls’ education was more important than boys and got schools to enact policies that focused on the way girls learn, which, being different than boys, meant that boys suffered. Ever wonder why the graduation rate and college entrance rate of boys is lower than girls? Yep, that’s why.
And let’s not forget teaching boys that they’re evil by default.
Oh, and we can’t forget the way current divorce laws support giving the mother full or majority custody if she so much as asks, even if she’s a known to be abusive to her partner or children (which is especially troublesome to fix, given the Duluth model of abuse, which is what feminists have been promoting from the first, in spite of it being debunked countless times), not to mention the studies that show that that much power in the hands of one parent when there’s no reason to have majority or full custody is harmful to children.
Feminism’s support of the Duluth model alone has led to countless cases of child abuse thanks to known abusers getting custody. The Duluth model, for those that don’t know, is a model of domestic abuse where women cannot be abusers, in spite of the majority of unbiased studies (read: Ones that aren’t conducted assuming that the Duluth model is true, base their numbers off of male abuse victims being sent to jail, etc) showing that women are actually more likely to be the abusers in unidirectionally abusive relationships, and as the seriousness of the violence increases, they gain a larger share of that. And, to make matters worse, this translates to children as well.
And let’s not forget trying to excuse statutory rape… because the victims were boys.
So yes. Feminism is engaged in quite a lot of child abuse. Now, I know feminists that call bullshit on all of this, ones that are interested in equality and have the requisite knowledge to understand that a lot of the stuff they’re fed is lies, but the sad part is that they’re vastly outnumbered by those with good intentions that don’t know that women are the majority abusers or that there’s gender symmetry in rape. And those give their power to the feminists that would suppress this information and spout statistics that are fundamentally flawed (see above).
In other words, the majority power lies in the hands of feminists that do support child abuse.
alicemacher wrote:
No thanks, I’m good. It’s ridiculous to assume that people willing to follow those links actually believe this arc is what feminism is all about.
Carl W. Roden wrote:
No, be fair, America has many different Gestapos, so I think you’re going a little bit overboard by labeling them as THE Gestapo.
…now, all kidding aside. Their Wikipedia page reads very well and they seem to actually be pretty reasonable. I like that. The one thing I might object to is the education part, but I don’t really want to do the research and I’m just going to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Also, lobbies usually don’t have checks or balances, so what’s so different about this one? The Supreme Court said money = speech and they have money so… hope/advocate for the Supreme Court to change its mind?
@ FreeFlier:
I think you have it exactly right. Cambridge is truly the Little Tin God who is using feminism as her excuse for lording it over others.
I also believe that TomLak has a point both about women being allowed the vote and about democracy. True democracy is, after all, two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch. :p
I predict that on Monday we’ll get to see where Cambridge ended up, probably dazed and confused in an Islamist nation where women are commonly oppressed for real, so she can learn what true oppression really is.
After that, it’s possible that we’ll have a short “cleanup” arc with a sensible feminist who actually wants equality and not superiority.
Her room is full of dildos. Called it.
Is there a hold on comments for this page? I put a lot of work in my last comment and I’ve got to be honest: I’m kind of upset that it’s not there. It could be because of the substantial number of links I posted, but I source my arguments and I won’t apologize for that.
@ alicemacher:
Googled the first one, first link I clicked (Feminism Friday: What can I do, right now today, to help stop sexual violence) had quite a bit of the BS I discuss in my post, which is on hold or some such.
Specifically when it claims that rape victims are “quite often young women.” Why not Google “Gender-Symmetry in Sexual Assault” and see how well that holds up. Or the claim in another area that false rape reports are 2-8% (the citation for which is Wikipedia). Google “About Half of Rape Allegations are False, Research Shows” and keep in mind that three out of four of those studies are based on women that reported rape and then admitted that they lied (taking the claim of police overestimating false reports and smaking it squarely in the face). Ohio University? Soner Yasa (another thing to Google)? Neither of these would actually count in those statistics as false reports because neither time did the accuser actually admit that they hadn’t been raped. Nor were false report charges filed against the false accuser in either case, which omits them from another batch of highly biased studies (and proves that police are extremely hesitant to file charges in those cases).
And, of course, their article on the wage gap, which cites a study that seeks to control for a few of the many, many differences in work habits and also decides to cite a graphic that supports her claim, meanwhile ignoring the actual data, which doesn’t. That graphic decided to lump in agricultural workers with loggers and Alaskan crab fishermen. The former earn a pretty substantial amount for non-college graduates and the latter earn several thousand dollars on average for a very short working season. Both of these are much more dangerous and much more highly paid than agricultural workers, and are also much more dominated by men. This argument also fails to take into account relative pay based on education/apprenticeship. Furthermore, it cites a study which looks at a few of the many, many work habit differences between men and women and, because those few of many can’t explain the entirety of the wage gap, then clearly the rest cannot explain it when factored in. Google “Why Men Earn More: The Startling Truth Behind the Pay Gap — and What Women Can Do About It” and read a book on this subject. Again, I stress the fact that the study cited in that article takes SOME of these into account, but not all.
On their domestic abuse article, they insist that those claiming gender symmetry or female majority of abusers use the CTS and that it’s garbage… and then goes on to cite a study that used the CTS and had absurd methodological and interpretive flaws (feel free to actually read the questions, including the fact that they only asked women about being raped via PIV sex, and this is one example of how horribly flawed and biased that study was). It also quotes someone actually claiming that using research that shows gender symmetry is misogynistic. Yes, facts are now misogynistic. It also uses partner homicide rates while ignoring that these are based off of convictions, and it’s far less likely for a woman to be arrested after committing a partner homicide (including it being less likely to be detected as a homicide at all, due to greater planning and more subtle methods combined with the legalities involved in autopsies), less likely to be convicted, and more likely to be allowed to plea down to a non-homicide charge (or found guilty of a non-homicide charge). In other words, that statistic is fundamentally flawed. This would be the equivalent of going off of rape convictions to determine the actual rate of rape, something that blog doesn’t seem to be in favor of.
So Feminism 101 is apparently about misinformation, deceit, ignorance, and misandry. Thank you for enlightening us on that.
I know feminists that would facepalm so hard at that site and all the bullshit it posts. Unfortunately, I know and they know that they’re in the majority. Most feminists are well-intentioned, but don’t know that what they’re reading is bullshit. They are fed bullshit along a long line that starts, unsurprisingly enough, with misandry and ignorance. I have no doubt that the authors of those articles meant well, but they were working based off of information that they had been fed by misandrists or else didn’t look closely enough at the information to know that it was completely bullshit.
@ NotASpy:
Whoops. Those feminists are in the minority. Little brain fart from being awake 6 hours past when I usually go to sleep.
Those and an article on the male gaze were actually the only articles I touched. I was going to talk about that article, but after all of that, I honestly feel that it’s unnecessary.
If you want to learn more about the subject (not the male gaze issue, mind you), though, feel free to Google this: “The psychology of hate” “Paul Elam”
That is Men’s Rights 101, and Anti-Feminism 098.
Martin Cohen wrote:
I’m sure that there are a few who would; but most would not. Regardless, making sweeping generalizations about MRA’s is just as ignorant as making sweeping generalizations about feminists. And don’t give me any “punching up / punching down” crap because that’s nothing but a load of nonsense that people use to try to justify their hypocrisy.
SaveTheKakapo wrote:
No, the lesson of the day is that abusive voices in power should not exist.
Thor wrote:
It was no different than what he’d done with Christianity in the previous arc, though I suspect that you didn’t get bent out of shape about that one. It’s funny; I’m always hearing about how Christians are so intolerant of other people’s views, yet I don’t recall seeing a dozen+ people whining for that arc to be censored.
Greg Taylor wrote:
Buh-bye.
Greg Taylor wrote:
I thought you just said that you weren’t going to comment anymore.
she has a Husband ?? well…good luck sending the sandwich to Saudi Arabia.
@ Aquatus1:
and she was so polite and friendly about it too, well not everyone has the brains to take a fair warning at face value.
apparently folks keep forgetting that Ye Thuza ONE-SHOT A TONBERRY like it was no big deal or anything. or has 20 levels in Rogue.
At my school, if the bathrooms closed, we would go behind a bush; and if we wore skirts, we would just speak only in Scottish accents and some of us would buy bagpipes. Adaption=passive resistance.
he actually had the nerve to ask that woman to make him a sandwich?
JD wrote:
opps misread that line