[0775] Assemblywomen
└ posted on Thursday, 7 April 2016, by Novil
- David: Honey, get a load of this! In the play Ecclesiazusae by the Athenian playwright Aristophanes, women institute a communist regime. They are portrayed as lazy, sex-crazed drunkards who make their husbands’ lives into a living hell.
- Ye Thuza: U-n-b-e-l-i-e-v-a-b-l-e!
- David: Allegedly, it was his most popular work since it portrayed views of women common at the time.
- Ye Thuza: Misogynistic pigs!
- David: It was common belief that even the most reputable women would eventually succumb to the temptations of a life of debauchery.
- Ye Thuza: That’s the biggest load of bull I’ve ever heard!
- David: You can say that again.
- Ye Thuza: Now get me another beer, sucker!
- David: Yes, honey.
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Behold, the drunk (?) Ye Thuza wearing a Bernie shirt…
We can tell from the throwing form demonstrated by her hand position that she’s clearly very sober. Right? Right?
…wait. This is Ye Thuza we’re talking about, here. Even if she’s terribly drunk, wouldn’t ANYTHING she could toss at someone’s head be enough to kill them?
@ Pax: if she killed him, he wouldn’t be able to get her that beer!
Maybe you should stop this type of joke spree for a while… Some variety would be nice =)
P.S. I’m talking about jokes about stereotypes or fictional stereotypes.
What Ye thuza heard: blah blah blah sex crazed blah blah blah living hell blah blah succumb to temptation and that reminds her She ran out of beer
Trimutius wrote:
Errrr… This is the first actual joke from a Sandra & Woo comic. It is about stereotypes in racoon naming. http://www.sandraandwoo.com/2008/11/03/nomenclature/
Stereotypes have always been a huge part of the jokes here, Novil just loves turning them around, making you believe one thing just to get a “haha, gotcha!”.
I can’t tell if this is pro- or anti-Bernie. I will withhold my judgment of this strip until I do.
Um… does she have a can of beer AND a bottle of wine?
In a way, they were far ahead of their time. Communism in ancient Greece? Dang, girl.
Also, I believe Ye Thuza is currently masturbating. Just thought I’d point that out.
Yawn. Watch as this once-decent comic strip becomes the MRA nonsense that its creator has flirted with for too long…
@ Pony-kour:
I think she’s supposed to be scratching. In other words she’s acting like the modern stereotype of a couch potato abusive man, which neatly mirrors the ancient female stereotype just pointed out, and thus making the point that stereotypes are stupid, people are people.
@ AdamNewTA:
Probably not. Err, either.
I can’t see Ye Thuza supporting Cruz, Trump or Hillary, albeit for different reasons for each. Her actual politics might not be obvious given her history as a refugee from a repressive Marxist state, given that many such persons in the US (pushed by the willful aid of regressive and pro-industry partisans) conflate with the democratic socialist reforms that would make aspects of American life more like that of Northwestern Europe. Either way, Hillary’s willful disdain for human rights and international law during her time as Secretary of State, Cruz’s religious fanaticism, every aspect of Trump’s existence, and Kasich’s willingness to cave to Cruz’s wing of the GOP on matters of women’s rights and bioethics, would altogether make Bernie seem like the best option, if I understand Ye Thuza at all.
@ Professor Q:
He could just as easily be called exactly the opposite. Math geek Sandra, rebellious pyromaniac Larisa, and arch-ninja Ye Thuza are all clear anti-stereotypical strong female characters, and Landon as the perennial damsel in distress takes the role-reversal even one step further. Whether he’s a feminist or an MRA depends on which comic you happen to be looking at right at the moment.
I’ve always seen him as a progressive who just sometimes likes to troll his more sensitive readers. I could be wrong of course, but so could you.
@ Pony-kour:
I think Sparta was supposed to be “Communist” in the sense that they had a strong guiding ideology (think Lycurgus in Marx’s place), citizens were supposed to not care about private property (in fact, they were restrict to the military carrers), trade and profit was tolerated only among foreigners and the slaves were (the “means of production”, so to speak, of that society) were State property.
Was there an actual purpose for this strip, besides the obvious punchline?
Xezlec wrote:
That’s how I read it. And when he does, one way or the other (or in any of the thousands of other ways), I come to the comments section for that sweet, sweet butthurt.
Table’s flip and tumble.
@ Izek Miller:
The thing about characters that aren’t the main cast s there is usually a lot left to fan’s to fill in the blanks.
For starters she probably see’s a lot of her old corrupt government officials in Bernie’s words, and I probably agree with you on most of the matters except Trump. She probably wouldn’t like much about him, but he’s running his campaign with no outside contributions that he would have to payback as ‘favors’ should he get in, a true outsider to the normal system. For better or for worse at the very least he’s protect the country from terrorism and at the most(for her anyway) all the corrupt politicians and drone’s of the government-media complex are all panicking because this country allows anyone to throw their hat in the ring and no-one expected him to do so. So I can see her voting Trump out of spite for them and the humor it brings her.
Ouch. Drunks scare me. Awesome people one second, scary alternate personality people the next.
But, fun strip, still.
Drunk Ye Thuza is cute xD
Her hand is down her pants…
Drunken lazy masturbation. Best kind.
Now, to await the people whining, as though this comic were for kids.
Three words come to mind:
Out. Of. Character.
@ Sarusig:
Ort this one, stereotypes of kids’ behavior. http://www.sandraandwoo.com/2009/08/24/0088-this-strip-has-been-partially-rewritten/
I don’t know but isn’t Aristophanes’ main theme was anti-war and how the war is prolonged by selfish politician.
Consider the current events and the results of Peloponnesian War with defeat of Athens and later weakening of Sparta, it still holds water.
@ AdamNewTA:
I’m guessing it’s more based on the idea that Americans think Bernie is a commie.
Although, by American standards, nearly everyone on the left-wing has been classified as a “commie” at some point.
Izek Miller wrote:
Except for Bernie’s heroes being the sort of people she fled from?
I binge read this comic from start to finish on one occasion, and I still don’t have any idea what her politics are. Refugees from communist nations tend a bit rightwing in reaction, but cover the whole spectrum from right of Attila the Hun to members of competing communist factions who thought the government wasn’t pure enough.
Funny comic, but I could see what was coming by the time I’d finished the first panel. Darned peripheral vision!
@ Brett Bellmore:
1) I do not think Burma is Socialist (the regime may have some statist/nationalist overtones and Socialist inspiration in the 50’s, but it is just another corrupt Asian autocratic regime at this point).
2) Bernie is a Socialist in Western Europe’s tradition (as the French Socialists and the German Social Democrats). I don’t think it is the kind of people she fled from. Another non-Marxist (he even wrote a book chapter entitled “Why I1m not a Marxist”) thinker who favored the word “socialism” to describe his own thought was Martin Gardner.
@ LabRat:
she’s had a lot of practice at throwing things at demonstrations, that it’s become second nature
I like the subtlety of her hand.
Now how much drunken downtime can she have before Yuna succeeds in taking over the world?
Ye Thuza: *picks up wine bottle, throws*
Yuna: MOOOOM!! Stop hitting my doomsday devices with your empties!!
>:=)>
Wonder what’s got her in such a bad mood.
Drumstep wrote:
Whiskey would be a better choice with beer. 🙂
Forgive my ignorance to American politics, but who is this Bernie guy? The way u guys talking sounds like an independent party candidate.
Anyway, wasn’t too pleased to see Ye thuza like that but not really in position to judge that she never goes on binges. I remember in one earlier strip she got depressed due to her sister disappearing in Burma, and she played games non stop. So for her to get upset enough to drink isn’t too much of a stretch, as long as Cloud and Yuna aren’t around.
@ Andy Wong:
He’s running for American president on the democratic side. Thing is, by nearly any other country’s standards the democratic party, while claiming to be left wing, would be at best a centrist party and at worst a right wing party. Meanwhile Bernie Sanders is an actual left wing politician who refuses donations from big businesses like oil for example, while his opponent, Hilary Clinton, does, and he has the actual policy history to show that unlike a typical career politician he doesn’t change his opinion based on what with garner the most votes. So… yeah. American politics are so messed up that this sounds like a godsend.
@ GnarlyDoug:
Thank you! Finally someone understands my hate of stereotypes, I have a reason to…. I’m Australian.
@ luck out:
So, these two examples of what most people think Aussies are like is not exactly endearing to you then 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfR9iY5y94s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BySC8sXEg_A&nohtml5=False
You might appreciate this one’s take though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3CW5sYXBjE
O-kaaay, every so often up comes a strip that really raises eyebrows. I certainly hope this is a joke, and not Ye Thuza from now on. That would be wrong on so many levels.
@ luck out:
Eh, at least most Autralian stereotypes are either goofy-funny or put you guys in a positive, or even straight-up badass light. Try being French or Russian on an American-dominated internet.
luck out wrote:
/em hides the good silver…
It doesn’t matter how drunk she may be, she still knows exactly how hard (not) to throw a beer can. Perhaps she’d prefer Lysistrata?
Wein auf Bier, das rat ich dir …
@ Izek Miller:
I’m not questioning Ye Thuza’s political ideology. I’m questioning Novil’s.
@ Hogtree Octovish:
That’s true. When I was a kid, my grandfather called me and my brother “brainwashed communists.” Were he alive today, I wonder what he’d say about us if he found out we both strongly support Bernie.
@ T209:
I think you’re referring to Lysistrata, not the play in the comic.
I dunno about drunkard part….but sex is a useful tool that can…pacify the male when utilized well (see Bonobo).
Well, my dad came from Burma/Myanmar too.
Ironically, his alignment would be “Wildcard” like hopping around both wings of politics thanks to his left wing ideals as a child but happened to be like Utilitarianism, pro-business, and 1960’s.
– He believe in financial regulation but view Trade Union as “greedy” and “ungrateful”.
– Social welfare but view somewhat negative on homosexual marriage and paid leave.
– believe on workers’ dignity but think that docking pay as punishment and discipline are good idea.
In his excuse, that only apply in Burma/Myanmar. But he would lean on Hillary Clinton due to the need for his “oversea industries” (aka his publishing house).
Same as my brother except on gay part. He consider himself as “technocrat” with no political alignment, which he wanted results and efficiency. Instead of statement, he would spout statistics and how some populist ideas (Gold standard) are not worth it.
Then again, you can’t argue with Technocrats.
I’m going to be that guy. While Aristophanes’ play was playing with stereotypes, at the end of the play the “communist” regime they force on Athens is absolutely FANTASTIC! Everybody is happy, there is no war, no poverty, etc.
The downside, of course, is that they also let the men have sex with all the women they want, but first they must go to bed with the ugliest women in town.
I’d also like to add that men aren’t portrayed much better in the play: they are every bit as lazy, lustful and heavy drinkers as their wives.
I am really confused and a little bit upset with this one. Why on Earth would she support Bernie Sanders for president? It does not seem like someone who rebelled against a totalitarian regime would support a socialist candidate, even if he is an idealist. He wants to greatly increase the power of the government, and even if it would be used to benefit the people, such as system can be easily abused. As she saw in her own country… this makes no sense.