[0941] The Godfather
└ posted on Monday, 27 November 2017, by Novil
- Ye Thuza: Hi, I’m “The Dark Knight Rises.” My plot has more holes than the body of a wannabe spree killer at an NRA convention.
- Ye Thuza: I’m “Prometheus.” My characters have about as much common sense as a mentally handicapped amoeba.
- Ye Thuza: I’m “Snowpiercer.” I’m in the Guinness Book of World Records for the setting that makes the least amount of sense.
- Ye Thuza: A movie with our flaws combined…
- Ye Thuza: … would still be a hundred times more entertaining than the snoozefest that was “The Godfather.”
- David: It’s the lynch mob.
- Ye Thuza: Tell them I liked “Twilight” better than “Blade Runner.”
![[0941] The Godfather](/comics/2017-11-27-0941-the-godfather.png "[0941] The Godfather")
Times do change, don’t them?
Even if I want to defend the old classics, I really can’t watch something like 2001 anymore without dozing off… if nothing else, we did improve a lot on pacing on most movies.
I’m still hoping Ye Thuza is just trolling with the last comment, though.
r4m0n wrote:
I had no problem sitting through “2001” since it was at least interesting. But “The Godfather” was unbearable.
Damn… that awkward moment when I realize that I haven’t watched any of the movies mentioned here… I just rarely watch movies… (this statement does include Twilight and Bladerunner)
You might get a little heat on that first joke given the incident that happened during it’s premier, just a heads up.
Yeah, I don’t like the Godfather either. Some old movies hold up. Some were just a product of their time. Some…some you just can’t see what the big deal is.
Ugh… Sorry but Twilight is pure trash…
Bahamuttone wrote:
I think Twilight thing was just a punchline…
TFW you don’t watch movies.
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
And Ye Thuza isn’t even prepared to wait for Larisa…
Novil wrote:
Damn, same here. 2001’s beginning is slow AF and drags a lot, but the entire part with Hal is awesome.
Now the Godfather… I really couldn’t watch it whole, it was way too freaking slow.
Technical issue report: The previous comic doesn’t have the “Next” and “Latest” links. Also, the “Latest” links in earlier comics are pointing to the previous comic instead of this one.
@ Anonymous Coward (not verified):
It’s suddenly working now. Maybe the routine that updates links is set to run exactly an hour after publication? Weird.
@ Novil:
well the 2001 one is not for nowadays hyperspeed mindset…
Just compare the “submarine” battle in “Wrath of Khan” and battle new Star Treks… hells its just CGI blazing…
I would have to jump and actually defend Revenge of the Sith… the Opera scene where Palpatine and Anakin sit and talk… is great remedy for the movie…
nowadays it would be even worse… episode 7 case in point. (rogue one was much better)
@ Anonymous Coward (not verified):
Actually, it’s still not working when I use a private browsing window or a different browser profile. This is weird. It’s like there’s some sort of “Has this person commented?” cookie that determines if I see a link to the latest comic, even though the main page consistently shows the latest comic.
Or, peoples’ attention spans have suffered because of movies without plot or character development.
interventor wrote:
Most likely this!
Huh. I wouldn’t have thought so, but I kinda agree with this.
I mean, I’ve watched DKR and Snowpiercer more than once. But Godfather?
Well, Blade Runner has that rape scene and Twilight is… well, Twilight. So I’ll give her a pass on that one.
2001 and Blade Runner are wonderful films, with an immersive setting, a good plot and a wonderful soundtrack. Kubrik and Scott weren’t known for their bad work, either. But it’s no crime not to love them. Simply, they are from a time when films were less paced, and people used to faster movies will have it difficult getting through them.
The problem isn’t that someone says s/he doesn’t like them. The problem is the people that are quick to bash anybody who doesn’t like those films. Look, you can disagree with my tastes, and even say that I’m wrong. But you can’t force me to love any form of art just because you think it’s the best of the best.
And this goes for both kinds of hooligans. It doesn’t matter wether they are defending Twilight or Blade Runner. If you don’t respect the one that thinks different, you are out of the game. Period.
That Blade runner joke hurt. It really hurt.
Snowpiercer made absolute sense. How does “Ice age, but humans survived on a train” not make sense? Also, the term “plot hole” is too widely used. Rises wasn’t grand, but with just a BIT of thought, has very few plot holes, only issues depicting the passage of time.
I agree with ajgelado, liking or disliking certain movies involves one’s taste and taste is subjective. I may be curious about what “plot holes” Ye Thuza found in “The Dark Knight Rises” or why she preferred “Twilight” better than “Blade Runner”, but I’m not tempted to pick up my torch and pitchfork over it (and not just because Ye Thuza could easily kick my butt)
I suppose that’s proof that I’m old fashioned, I prefer my movie criticism to involve drinking too much of the libation of one’s choice and discussion of facts, ideas and plot points instead of flame wars.
I’ve only watched one of the mentioned movies. I refuse to say which one on the grounds it may incriminate me.
Picking a fight with Ye Thuza- not smart.
@ Trimutius:
I say she´s so bored that she´s looking for a fight – and that statement is bound to get the crowd in a *killing* mood!
Onihikage wrote:
To be fair doesn’t Twilight have detracters due to it arguably promoting unhealthy relationships (i.e. that what Bella does is “supposedly” how all teen girls are, therefore it’s acceptable) as opposed to merely just being harmlessly bad?
I tried The Godfather once. I ended up re-watching Friday The 13th (2009) instead…
She should say she liked Wonder Woman movie, all mob will disappear.
To be fair, Twilight the movie was better than Twilight the book. Didn’t have to slog through her terrible writing.
Next up say you liked the recent justice league.
-Raises hand to say first panel, I though we were headed to Justice League.
Last panel, yeah, that’s appropriate last words to explain why you have to leave, possibly life. Also that’s Ye Thusa. No-one has to agree with everyone else, and a woman picking a chick flick over excellent cinema isn’t unheard of, and Ye, coming from one of the ‘less advanced’ countries might not have the right Common Knowledge backing to understand what she’s seeing in BR1 or 2. She would likely be mentally dividing movies into “the parts I understand” and “I don’t” and choosing movies that amuse her despite the “weird for weird’s sake” of flying cars and laser guns and an Earth that’s not flat. But it’s Ye Thusa, she may be trying to pick a fight with a mob armed with bits of wood and metal out of “it’s all she knows” (and can likely win). Unlike science fiction, it’s familiar territory for her.
@ Trimutius: You’re not missing much.
When Ye Thuza trolls, she does not go half way, or even all the way. She is the proof of 50% + 50% + 50% being possible.
interventor wrote:
I guess that’s it.
I have watched the Godfather through without falling asleep or anything, even though it wasn’t the most amazing movie I’ve ever watched. I have watched 2001 without sleeping, although the ending is just bullshit to me. I haven’t watched any of the other movies, because superhero movies are just not my cup of tea and – well, there are so many movies anyway and, hey, I have a life! 😀
I’ve never even heard of Snowpiercer.
Godfather is not a movie that I would watch once a month but I like it very much. To my mind it captures the time period very well and it has a lot of amazing scenes and amazing acting. But it’s true – if I want to watch Marlon Brando being the best Godfather in movie history I can watch his scenes on Youtube, without 2 hours of movie around them.
Still, I’m 41 and I can enjoy a slow movie. A couple of days ago I rewatched Ghost in the shell – the original anime, not the remake with actors. Minutes of pure music and cityscape or the long assembly scene at the beginning are great to watch if you’ve got the patience to immerse yourself in the setting.
Antiyonder wrote:
That’s one of the criticisms, yes: the relationship between the main characters (and many of the relationships between secondary characters) are actually highly abusive but treated as “romantic.” There’s also the objectively terrible writing, the plot that requires most of the characters to be complete idiots in defiance of the fact that we’re told every couple of pages how intelligent and mature they are… really, there isn’t an angle you can look at the series from where it doesn’t look abominable.
That being said, every time I tried to watch Blade Runner I fell asleep.
Dark Knight Rises had a whole lot less plot holes than Dark Knight- which was still the better movie, I think, although I think Dark Knight Rises was pretty good too. I’m still convinced a lot of hostility to the third was political. The political subtext of the second could be dismissed; the third, not so much.
Novil… just… Novil… no.
Stick with commedy&cuteness, everytime you talk about politics or culture you seem like a not overly informed 14 year old internet-troll.
At least The Godfather gave us one of the cutest characters in Zootopia? :’3
@ Squirrelmaster:
You really haven’t missed much.
ajgelado wrote:
Also note that ‘you are free to like it but it’s a terrible movie’ is significantly different from ‘you are free to like it but I do not like it’ is different to ‘I don’t like it but it could even be a good movie’.
@ nicktyrong:
“How does “Ice age, but humans survived on a train” not make sense?”
Because a train (long, thin, breaks between carriages) is just about the worst conceivable structure for surviving extreme weather? Because it must have required a series of miracles for those precarious bridges to survive? Because it just made no sense to be _going_ anywhere when a source of limitless energy was available, let alone continually circumnavigating the globe?
Besides, when the movie demonstrated several times that it wasn’t taking itself seriously (“Happy new year”, the classroom scene, any scene involving Tilda Swinton’s ludicrous character), I saw no reason why I should either.
She is 100% right about The Godfather.
She’s likely trolling with the Blade Rune thing, tho…
@ Novil:
Hi Novil
What exactly was unbearable about the film?
Having watched all but Prometheus and Twilight, out of the movies mentioned I certainly liked The Godfather best. Sure, it’s not some ADHD-paced action flick but it’s not supposed to be – and at least it has an interesting story to tell.
Snowpiercer, for all its flaws was at least somewhat entertaining. DKR broke suspension of disbelief about once a minute and was just painful to watch. Blade Runner was a combination of boring, confusing and bad-weathery. Seriously, don’t they have anything but rain, night and rainy night in the future?
As for 2001, it would have made a decent short film, cut the beginning, cut the esoteric end and, cut the combined hour of stuff moving very slowly on screen and make a five minute short film about Hal and the astronauts.
I have a couple of spare pitchforks if anyone is interested.
Novil wrote:
I tried. I tried so hard to get through 2001. I absolutely loved the book, as well as its sequels. And I have a far higher tolerance for slow stories than most people I know. But that movie is THE MOST BORING THING I have ever seen. Far too much time was spent on minutia. Two minutes to walk ten feet and 180 degrees? (No, I don’t know the actual time it took, and I do not care to find out. It felt like an hour, with those micro-steps.)
Ah, Prometheus… or as I like to call it, “Dude, Don’t Touch That! – The Movie.”