[1028] Dating Tips For Boys, Part 2 Of 4
└ posted on Monday, 8 October 2018, by Novil
- Ethan: Hannah is so pretty! She’s totally out of my league, though! I’d rather ask Julia to go to the dance with me.
- Cloud: And that’s where you’re wrong, Ethan!
- Cloud: Because, you see, Julia has read too many Cosmo articles and therefore has impossibly high standards.
- Julia: Too short. Too thin. Too dull. Too nerdy.
- Cloud: Hannah, on the other hand, has very modest expectations of her boyfriend.
- Hannah: My boyfriend must come to all my tournaments and cheer for me!
- Ethan: But didn’t you just say to avoid horse girls at all–
- Ethan’s penis: Shut up!
- Cloud’s penis: Ha ha! That dweeb really thinks he’s in charge here!
- Ethan: All right, I guess Hannah could be an exception…
- Caption: Of course Hannah was no exception…! Ethan works as a horse butcher today. Out of pure passion.
![[1028] Dating Tips For Boys, Part 2 Of 4](/comics/2018-10-08-1028-dating-tips-for-boys-part-2-of-4.png "[1028] Dating Tips For Boys, Part 2 Of 4")
o.O
So… Did that boy die, or was it a previous boy. Guess we won’t know until the next strip
You’re trying to trigger *all* the feminists, aren’t you?
How… can you be unsure… of the culprit of a murder-suicide?
It was the horse who done it!
That, or the guy’s penis. It will not be ignored!
CornedBee wrote:
In these days of SJW’s, Political Correctness and such is literally takes no effort to piss of such groups.
I have my own experiences of politely expressing an opinion that they didn’t like, only to be met with boo’s, mocked and have my beliefs shat upon, all of which was met with applause
I mean seriously… They completely overreacted to my statement that kids shows shouldn’t be a place for depicting Human Sexuality
@ CornedBee:
its about Time someone does.and i applaud it.
This feels like a Comic back in the days when i was Young (speak, the late 90th’) where no one would complain and People just could take a joke. Good times.
I really, really miss when this comic was more about Woo and silly raccoon adventures. We already had one way too long Sandra arc, can we please get some fun Woo stuff, soon?
@ Alice Macher:
The Horse’s penis, maybe?
Maybe the horsing around got out of hand?
You know, I have to agree with Julia on this. Plenty of boys are picky with girls so why can’t girls be picky with boys? If you want to be considered, you have to actually put effort in. Nobody wants a lazy bum of a partner who barely looks after themselves.
@ Stephen:
What? Don’t you want to eat your mandated fan-service?
@ Stephen:
I like these arcs. Which means there’s no way to please us both. Guess the author will just have to do what he wants with his comic instead of trying to please literally everyone, since that’s clearly impossible.
@ Titan:
I did consider that… then I remembered how big those things are compared to the human tool and I backed away from the thought. O.O
Titan wrote:
Please notice that these people are *not* actual feminists. They only claim to be. If they would really care about womens’ rights they would talk about murder, human trafficking, forced marriages, honor killings. Instead, they try to promote their own ideologies.
It’s the oldest trick of the world: You pose as advocate of some minority (Example: Women, homosexuals etc.) & start accusing random people (preferably your political opponents) of attacking said minority. It looks much better than attacking someone for his political or ideological beliefs.
@ Arent:
That’s what they call the “no true Scotsman” fallacy.
Perhaps you’re right about what “feminists” should be doing, but, empirically, that’s what “feminists” actually do, and hasn’t been for decades.
I suppose it’s rather like the way Fabian socialists managed to capture the term “liberal” here in the US, forcing the original “liberals” to call themselves “classical liberals” or “libertarians” to avoid confusion.
I wonder what new term you could use for “feminists” who were more interested in advancing the welfare of women, than replacing patriarchy with a humorless matriarchy? “Classical feminists”? “Femitarians”? Doesn’t really roll off the tongue.
Brijeka Vervix wrote:
You haven’t met a lot of boys, have you? Or you’ve met SO MANY boys, that the tiny fraction of a percentage that is picky has somehow grown to a “plenty”.
But don’t just take my word for it. There’s scientific study. An examination of male and female preferences shows that any given woman has a 50% chance of being attractive to more than 50% of men, but a man only has a 20% chance of being attractive to more than 50% of women.
So either women somehow keep a nice average 50:50 split on datibility, while most men are undatible, ooooor, women are significantly more picky than men.
Let me know when we’ve stopped using ridiculous stereotypes rendered over-the-top to the point that they become surreal, thus ruining why the stereotypes were funny in the first place. I’ll be back then.
@ Alice Macher:
What are you think the penis did?
Wait, was this a jab at Sweden and their professional police reports of hiding culprits if they are female or migrants?
Also I called it, “horse girls” was just a case of “arson, murder and jaywalking” for the sake of a running gag.
@ Brijeka Vervix:
Well – I admit I am picky in some respects – for example if girl is 10cm shorter then me and weights 20 kilos more then me its really a no go.
(I am not the slimmest person in universe… I could loose like 5kg (178/87) to have good weight. But 30kg extra is to much.
(I use the traditional chart that you should weight your height in cm-100 and am fine with extra 10 tops)
(actually even when “thinking” by pants part)
@ erejnion: They do not go out of their way to hide specific groups, they just dont track ethnicity and the like in crime records.
Well, I gess I’m an old-schooled guy, who is (was) looking for a spouse rather than a girlfriend.
The “expectations” change dramatically. 🙂
@ erejnion:
So now the comic is not just about evil feminists, but Sweden and migrants too? I wonder why Novil & Powree bother so much with those comics, if they could just post a blank rectangle and y’all would imagine it to be whatever you want.
Peyton wrote:
You can be unsure if you don’t know who of the two dead people was the one who murdered the other one and subsequently committed suicide and who was merely the victim.
Charlie wrote:
Perhaps it’s because Novil and Powree’s point is not clear, due to warping reality beyond recognition while talking about what are, for many, sensitive issues.
It’s like if we were talking about oranges and I just randomly stuck on a clown nose, injected drugs into my ankles, and then afterwards claimed that it was still about oranges but I was trying to be funny. You know, by hallucinating an alternate reality where oranges eat people. But I see you didn’t laugh. You must not have gotten the joke. Excuse me while I snort cocaine and make up even more elaborate falsehoods that don’t resemble reality so that you laugh more.
Huh? You’re still confused? You have complaints? Why are you bullying me? I’ll make up another elaborate falsehood about you this time! You think oranges are the fruit of Satan!
…So perhaps excuse people for imagining things? It’s not like this behavior really lets us understand what’s going on. A blank rectangle might even be preferable at times.
Brijeka Vervix wrote:
Of course girls can be picky with boys and vice versa, though you generally don’t do yourself a favor if your standards are unrealistically high and you look for Mr. or Ms. Perfect, because then you will probably either not find him or not be sufficient for his/her equally high standards and end up alone.
But I think Cloud’s main tips here are something different:
First: Don’t refrain from asking out someone you like just because you think she is “out of your league” – you just don’t know what that particular girl expects from a boy and you shouldn’t automatically assume that any girl who is exceptionally good looking won’t date any boy who isn’t both an A-Student as well as an athletic Adonis – who knows, she might just like you.
Second: Never ask someone out whom you actually consider “second choice” just because you hope she has lower expectations. No one wants too be second choice for a potential partner and she will totally notice if you only go out with her because you think she might be an easy lay. Ask someone out whom you genuinely like instead and do your best to be likeable for her.
Ellowell, so much hate over an arrangement of pixels meant to entertain. Why don’t y’all just attack me instead of Novil, eh? I can take a joke, ecks dee.
Brett Bellmore wrote:
If ‘feminism’ is defined by someone who opposes actual, serious violations of womens rights, most of the so called ‘feminists’ simply are not. And a lot of diehard conservatives, which are continuously called ‘sexist’, ‘chauvinist’, ‘discriminating’ etc. have done more for womens rights than the majority of people who call themselves ‘feminist’.
You are, of course, right insofar, that you can ‘capture’ certain terms by clever PR.
If we’re trying to be honest, we should summarize all dating advice to: just don’t do it.
Titan wrote:
Yeah the Angry video Game Nerd calmly and reasonably explained why he wasn’t going to see Ghostbusters 2016, and that group, including celebrities attacked him for weeks, calling him sexist and such when he never once mentioned gender.
Arent wrote:
Yeah I think the only feminist I actually like falls into this catagory, the Factual Feminist, aka Christina Hoff Sommers. She’s a feminist that actually cares about those issues, and bashes SJW Feminists.
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@ CornedBee:
*Sings* “There ain´t no rest for the triggered…”
Glad this satire story arc knows who’s really in charge
That Swedish Guy wrote:
Self-righteous indignation doesn’t grow on trees…
@ Peyton:
Because there’s two potential culprits.
Weird, I didn’t see the “Dating tips for girls” strips spiral even remotely this deep into the sociopolitical hellscape. Like, at all.
SKy wrote:
It didn’t, and neither did this one. It just looks like it did. I’ll explain this using an example from a different webcomic, called “Sexy Losers”.
That comic is mostly about dirty jokes. In one running arc, a mother has the hots for her son, and jokes are made about her various attempts to seduce him. In a later strip, the author self-inserts into the comic in an “interview”, where he announces a spin-off sequel to the arc with the exact same jokes, only the genders are flipped. Suffice to say, the punch line to the strip is the author being beaten up while repeatedly saying “But it’s the exact same jokes”.
The point is, you can do something, and have everyone feel like it’s funny, but flip the genders, and suddenly its a charged topic. That’s what we’re seeing here. It becomes charged because the genders are not in the balance that people are normally willing to accept as “funny”.
SlugFiller wrote:
Well, it is not really the same thing here, the “dating tips for Girls” arc really was much more innocent and lighthearted than this one, it is not remotely just the same jokes gender reversed. For starters, there was no comic that said: Avoid the following cliche types of boys because they will make you unhappy. The whole arc was more about taking a more direct approach in dating and being aware that teenage boys are often awkward when interacting with girls, plus some good general tips how to better get to know someone and to be mature about different interests, etc. Once you begin defining types of people to avoid, of course it gets much more controversial, especially if you bring up topics like gold diggers and man haters. If Novil had started the dating tips for girls with Larissa warning them from chauvinist pigs, boys that only want that one thing, boring video game nerds or similar cliches, he would have triggered the haters likewise, epecially the so called meninists (i.e. men that whine on the Internet like little girls every time someone says something against men).
To make it clear: I don’t complain here, it is still all good fun and it would be boring if he just repeated exactly the same thing after all. I do hope though that the arc will leave the problematic topic of “which girls to avoid” soon and focus more on how to date girls, like the other arc did. So far, Larissa’s tips have been much more useful than Cloud’s.
@ someguy:
I dunno, so far the advice has been “don’t go out with someone that is going to treat you poorly,” “don’t just assume what someone considers ‘their league,’c and “don’t let your dick be the sole deciding factor for who you date.” With a running gag of “equestrians are secretly the worst people to date apparently,” because why not.
I think this type of discussion is good and should happen with boys, but it’s painfully bad in this case.
Like a girl having things she considers attractive in a guy are not really high standards and just wanting your boyfriend to show some basic interest in your hobbies isn’t really a standard at all.
Also, there are things to say about the horse girl jokes, but that is an entirely different topic and conversation that most people aren’t even aware of so no fault on that.
Also, both abusive men and women can be hard to spot in reference to yesterday’s comic.
I get the creator doesn’t like feminist from other comics, but like the stuff they mock isn’t even any feminism. Like this is joke/stereotypically version that you only see from trolls and not even what radfem or TERFs (two groups of “feminists” that are terrible and very real) are like
We fixed the design of Julia in the second panel.
I also changed the last sentence of the strip. While the previous version “Police is still unsure about the culprit of the murder-suicide, though.” was funny, it was kinda missing the point of relationships with horse girls. It would have been more appropriate for snippedy-snap girls.
This comment section is supremely disappointing. All I see is a bunch of good ole boys patting themselves on the back for standing up to the “humorless feminists” when no such people have commented on this comic.
Novil wrote:
Yeah I was still confused by the murder suicide. Didn’t know if it meant Cloud and the horse girl were both dead or not, so I like this one better. Also ‘Horse butcher’ I guess is funny, but if he ended up stuck with her, some kind of job where he spends the rest of his life cleaning up horse droppings would have been funny as well. Not sure what was wrong with the previous design of Julia, but I wasn’t looking hard or memorizing, so I don’t know what changed.
I agree the revised punchline makes more sense and is funnier. “Ethan works in a glue factory today” would also have worked. (Poor horsies, but hay — I mean hey — it’s understandable.)
I don’t get this one. Who’s talking in the last panel?
@ eNamel5:
Stephen Fry.
CornedBee wrote:
You don’t need to get offended in other people’s behalf. If anyone gets offended by this comic, I assure you they will not be shy to have their disgust heard all over the internet.
I’ve noticed over the last year that no ACTUAL SJWs get offended, all I hear is “this is going to offend all the SJWs!”, but no first hand accounts of personal offense. How strange…
Gen315 wrote:
“Police is still unsure about the culprit of the murder-suicide, though.”
“In Europe they eat horses. In Hannah´s stable, HORSES EAT YOU!!!!
Shark wrote:
Not sure what was wrong with the previous design of Julia, but I wasn’t looking hard or memorizing, so I don’t know what changed.
She was pretty much flat-chested, which does not really fit your average 13-ish teenage girl’s expected build.
I have to agree with the last panel. The Short Guy In The Pants has been the source of many a bad bit of advice concerning women. To all of us.