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- Edward: See you soon, Larisa.
- Larisa: Bye.
- Edward: Your warnings were more than justified. Larisa is a wild girl.
- Edward: But she seems to have her heart in the right place.
- Landon: You think, dad?
- Edward: I do.
- Edward: Your mother, on the other hand…
- Priest: The Catholic Church no longer burns witches, madam.
- Harriet: Not even in crystal clear cases?!
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I’m a christian and even I hate people like Harriet. People that can’t accept the belief of others are the few people that make it on my list of people that I refrain from having contact with as mich as possible. (That includes christians, athiests, muslims , etc.) As a christian I’ve made every attempt to research other religions as much as possible. Hell I have books from other religions on my bookself. I’ve even studied a great deal of science. My opinion is that you don’t truly have faith unless you look at other religions and their beliefs and say: “I have all the facts from these people, but even so I still believe this, and here’s why _________.”
@ myth buster:
…yet.
and i foresee landons mom trying to drench larissa in holy water the next time she visits. you know, to drive out the devil 😉
Actually I think if Larisa had to chose a way to go out. Being burned at the stake may be on the list.
To be sincere, I would hate to be the person on the other side of the phone line XD
Guess that answers what’s gonna happen to that relationship. While father approves, mother does not. As in all disputes like that, mother trumps father every time.
There actually was a brief window where the Church was cool with witch-burning (although as with heresy, the Inquisition itself did not hand down death sentences, only allow them). From 1484 to 1490, the official position was yes, magic seems to be real, and should be “corrected and chastised” by the Inquisition. Unfortunately, that was more than long enough to let the genie out of the bottle, compounded by a big chunk of Europe suddenly drawn to the opposite of anything Rome might say.
Of course, that has nothing to do with Salem, where there were no burnings per se, and you were probably better off as a witch than as a Catholic.
Raen wrote:
Now this is only hearsay. And I can only speculate about how accurate it is. It wouldn’t surprise me though.
But I’ve heard that the one woman who got away in the Salem trials did so, because she admitted to being a witch.
Okay, I just checked. And the woman I was thinking of actually got away with a bit of jailtime and no trial. But she wasn’t the only one to survive, it would seem. Even some who got sentenced to death weren’t killed if they confessed and named other suspects. Which was in part responsible for the high number of suspects. (Not the first time this happened. It was the same for quite a lot of the trials in medieval Europe.)
Autoskip wrote:
Actually exhibit B is not the type most seen. Only loudest and most obnoxious.
And to all those saying that this church did never and did church even less… It wasn’t official church policy (except for some very short time when in central Europe there weren’t things like catholic, puritan or whatever. There only was the church.), that’s true. That didn’t mean however that the local or regional church authorities wouldn’t be involved every so often.
@ Peya Luna:
Damn you sure nailed that one.
Knowing Larisa, people attempting to burn her to death would make her only more powerful.
Lukkai wrote:
Sorry, I guess what I should have said was that Exhibit B is the type most noticed – especially when people are looking for something to put in the news.
Peya Luna wrote:
This sounds like a perfect excuse for the old bucket on top of the door trick!
(Y’know, to make sure she got enough)
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Pffha!
Foolish Landon’s mother! You cannot burn Larissa, for she is already ABLAZE with passion! For fire!
“Just as every cop is a criminal,
“And all the sinners, saints!”
Landon is probably a bit repressed by mum there – which would explain why he would develop an attraction for Larisa. The old “opposites attract” bit – my wife and I, for instance, are almost polar opposites. And we’ve been married for 15 years…
(Then again, my wife is less “opposite” me than most people think. At the core, we’re essentially the same person, we enjoy a psychic link that heterodynes our individual intellects, and she’s becoming more & more like me every year. In return, she’s managed to somewhat civilise me. But, the Beast is never far from the surface, can’t get rid of that…)
Around that age, tho, I think Larisa would have enjoyed hanging out with me. I was heavily into pyrotechnics in high school, and knew how to arc weld, oxy torch weld & cut, thermite weld, and I liked to melt metal…
Autoskip wrote:
Now we’re on the same page. For especially the latter part is (unfortunately) very true.
“They never burned witches. Probably they burned some old ladies who spoke up or couldn’t run away. I wouldn’t look for witches bein’ burned. I might look for witches doin’ the burning, though. We ain’t all nice.”
— Esmeralda “Granny” Weatherwax, as quoted by Terry Pratchett in Carpe Jugulum
Preadatordetector wrote:
That would be interesting. Would that make Larisa Deedee’s counterpart ? 😀
Landon: Mom, Dad. Heads up, my Girlfriend is a psychopath with fire obsession, but she’s cool. Don’t scare her out too much, please.
@ Darth Killer:
Nah…Larissa’s too smart to be DeeDee…plus, Landon’s missing the faux-Eastern Euro accent.
@ Autoskip:
how do you think the one being reacted to feels? If you are the one who would be targeted by exhibit B, it makes finding out if you have met an exhibit A much more scary.
Once you know though, the As are definitely interesting resources for coming to terms with what people actually believe.
one does not simply BURN Larissa.
as if the fire would DARE XD!
@ Solanales:
Not difficult – some of us are like that.
Besides (time passes) – and we don’t know how long they were playing pool. Could have been an hour or so – with the bottle sorted in the first half.
Guys, this is my evil twin, I have not yet read a comic strip in 5 minutes, please, kill me and find out where my evil twin hid me!
@ Crestlinger:
Yowzers I always knew Comcast would try to take over the world! I even heard they already bought Time Wanner Cable. Well I’m not sure of that completely but I heard it on the news. I don’t wanna live in a world where all I see is lag wheels. THEY MUST BE STOPPED IMMEDEATLEY !
@ Lukkai:
In Salem, what essentially happened was some people accused people they didn’t like to be witches. If they refused to admit it, they were hung, if they did admit it and said they saw others ‘with the devil’, they were jailed in conditions that quite easily would have driven some of them insane. If they accused others of being witches that ‘possessed’ them or for hanging out ‘with the devil’, then they were usually free while those other people were then accused of being witches. Was it fair? Not in the slightest, every trial was a ‘your word against my word’ situation, where the accuser could pretend to be possessed and they’d win because there was no way to prove that they hadn’t done so. You essentially had to say ‘I’m a witch’ and accuse someone else of being one to survive, though I remember there were some kind of exception for pregnant women because I think Elizabeth Proctor (I think that was her name) was accused but though her husband was hung, she wasn’t, and she remarried four years later.
I’m sure multiple people tried to prove their spouses weren’t witches as well, but that didn’t go well because there is no proof that can really be given that someone doesn’t have powers and saying they did was easy to do by pretending they possessed you or your soul. Lying was a sin after all, so CLEARLY no one was going to lie about seeing people with the devil.
And this did result in some horrible deaths too. When Giles Corey refused to give them a yes or no, they couldn’t take his land so put stones on his chest to try to force him to give one or the other. His last words were ‘more weight’. He let himself be crushed to death so his children could keep his land because they only could have taken it if he had said yes or no.
The Salem Witch Trials were in general, horrible, cruel events where the accused were pretty much damned to lose and suffer.
I think though that it reached a point where there were so many ‘witches’ that they had to start letting people go because there couldn’t possibly have been that many, which was lucky for the latecomers who got freed, but not so much for the ones who were hung as witches despite denying it.
Ummm, About the Witch Burning, Catholic church only persecuted witch hunting to deter Pagan influence. The burning part is done on heretics and people of other religion.
Even the Inquisition forbid the use of witch trials and the book Malleus Maleficarum. They would charge witches with “insanity” charges. Granted that Spanish Inquisition was more of a power seizure by Spanish monarch, it actually known for using questioning methods instead of the then-common torture.
@ Rachel Roth:
I’m a Mormon, which is it’s own specific branch of Christianity. It’s kinda like how Protestant and Catholic are their own branches. The Type B’s hate us. Hate us bad, and as a Type A it drives me crazy.
I do fully understand how it feels to be the type B’s target. I’ve been accused of (no joking) Witchcraft, Heresy, Satanism, Cultism being brainwashed, being stupid, and the most shocking of the list, Kidnapping in just the last two or three years, all because of what I believe.
@ Sam Signorelli:
The differences between the characters in Dexter’s Laboratory and the characters that are in Landon’s family are largely abundant, but what I am talking about mostly is the “secret laboratory” (non-sarcastic quotation marks, by the way…) aspect of Dexter’s Laboratory.
Dexter, for example, is fairly savvy with people, and rarely has been harassed by people stronger than he, and has a high-intelligence rival called Mandark.
Landon, however, is closer to the stereotypical nerd, being harassed by people with more muscle than intelligence, but does not (yet) have a rival of equal or higher intelligence.
Their fathers are also very different:
Dexter having a brawns-over-brains type of guy that is interested in sports. He is very aggressive about his daughter’s athletic career and his own, irritated when, for example, his bowling trophy is broken. Regardless, he loves his family.
Landon having a father that is more of the psychologist-hero type, able to figure out Larisa’s intentions and able to keep a steady relationship with his overly religious wife despite his potential alcoholism.
Their mothers also are wildly different:
Dexter having the easy life with his fairly smart mother, however he has to watch out for his mother’s mysophobia, and if his mom lost her gloves, well, she will be like her husband after he gotten his bowling trophy broken, but a lot worse….
Landon’s mom obviously is not very intelligent in the first place, wanting to burn Larisa at the stake for being too radical (in her point of view) and wanting nothing to do with what she views as “sin”, which is a lot.
I can go on about this, but the point is that I am only wondering about one aspect about another story this time, one wire or gear from another machine, like putting a better muffler onto a high-powered sports car, for example. Not everything has to be replicated, like turning said car into a wee VW Beetle. That would be such a waste of resources, don’t you think?
Burning her would do no good. It would only make her stronger!
@ Derpamon:
Works all the time for the CIA.
@ Preadatordetector:
Preadatordetector wrote:
Well if it was Landon, then yes. Larissa on the other hand. . . she’d probably go well with that kind of back-story.
@ Derpamon:
Actually, it’s more like 1000 degree murder.
🙂
Really, we mainly burned heretics (Jews, Catholics, Protestants, ect), but witchcraft and heresy do have some overlap. And it makes sense to burn witches – YOU DON’T WANT THEM COMING BACK!
@ Derpamon:
Yeah, nothing ruins a good witch burning like a fanatic like her!
Izumi Ryu wrote:
Ephesians 5:22-24
Which is not to say that she isn’t a hypocrite, of course. Pretty much all hardcore fundamentalists are.
Jerden wrote:
Actually, they don’t.
Magic doesn’t exist, as far as the Catholic Church is concerned(except between 1484 and 1490 because reasons. Mostly for political reasons).
Affirming otherwise is actually heretical. Which could get you burned… unless you repented.
And the official Catholic Church policy on Heretics was “One repented is better than hundred burned”
And, Nivarion?
By Catholic Church standards, you, like any non-catholic, ARE a heretic, as you refuse the dogma and doctrine of the Church. It’s an insult only if you give any importance to the catholic doctrine. Also, Catholics out of Europe are a weird bunch.
@ Derpamon:
Not just first degree murder; ritualistic cult murder preceded by grotesque tortures aimed at having the victim declare blasphamies… the victim in this case being a 12 year old girl.
Yeah, relax Landon. Dating psychotic girls is apparently a family tradition.
Larisa is a fire witch! if you try to burn her at the stake she’ll just get more powerful!