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Unfortunately, there will be only one new strip next week.
- TV: And after the weather, we’ll continue our coverage of the mostly peaceful riots in…
- Hitomi: American news even worse than Hitomi thought!
- Richard: Yeah, nobody watches that garbage anymore.
- Hitomi: It’s really disgusting. It’s as fake as… as…
- Hitomi: … noses of Korean women!
- Richard: OMG, Hitomi no!
- Richard: Say no to racism!
- Richard: Korean lives matter!
- Richard: South Korea = Best Korea
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Regis Earsquake wrote:
Actually Russia is more influential because el president is a Russian asset.
@ Marelt:
100% truth my good man, thank you. We all anime (lover and) likers here, and we regularly consume Shabu Shabu. And they don’t resent my plethora of Japanese farmer friends (Tanimura & Antle, Uesugi, Kono, the list goes on…)
What non Americans think? I can just tell what I think.
I’m not buying that the protests can last this long over Floyd’s death or even police brutality in general. I think that what we’re seeing is the product of the increasing animosity between people. The left is quick to call the right Nazis or white supremacists, while the right is quick to call the left communists or Marxists. Both are accusing the other of being a threat to America, yet both are furthering the division between the American people.
As for mostly peaceful protests, it’s very likely that there are a lot of non violent protests that aren’t covered by the news because peaceful protests are not as interesting as riots. However, even so, it’s hard to not notice that there has been a huge amount of harm done in the wake of the protests. I will also not consider anyone who shouts “ACAB” or similar as peaceful, even if that person isn’t engaging in physical violence.
It’s amazing that an industrialized country can maintain riots for months. Great Britain had a big one some years ago, but it lasted nowhere that long. The riots don’t seem to go away anytime soon. Neither republicans, nor democrats has any intention towards improving the situation for black Americans, so I can’t see either BLM or Antifa stopping. Granted, even if some politicians did try to improve the situation for the black people, the protests may still continue if it’s not done the right way. Several members of both BLM and Antifa has shouted both “Black lives matter” and “defound the police” and those are mutually exclusive. Satisfying those kinds of people will be impossible.
Not gonna lie. As someone who watches a LOT of K-dramas on Netflix, this made me laugh. Hard.
Facts matter wrote:
Sorry, but you’re an idiot. Regardless of the actual facts of the level of violence, you can’t use a news agency as the source for the reliability of the news agency. It’s like saying “I’m honest, and since I’m honest, you can believe me when I say that I’m honest.” It’s pretty much the definition of Circular Reasoning.
since an idiot in the comments section wants to spread stupid BS that isn’t true, here’s your official confirmation: no, BLM didn’t start any fires, you’re a fool. https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/09/rumors-about-antifa-wildfires-in-oregon-are-false-law-enforcement-says.html
Logan Cameron wrote:
You do know fires have in fact been started by BLM members in various cities right? Yet you are claiming no BLM members have set fires just because you believe they didn’t set one fire. Do not state categorically that they have set no fires unless you want to appear as a fool.
After all, I suppose the buildings CNN stood in front of while they were on fire were set on fire by the police or CNN instead of the violent rioters screaming BLM at such events. Who’d have ever thought that the policeman-fireman rivalry would get so heated.
Logan Cameron wrote:
The article covers wildfire specifically, not fires set to buildings in cities.
And then the south Korean fan-base did a mass exodus followed by the one north Korean.
hopefully not the case.
@ Me-me:
Generally speaking, unless it’s stated otherwise, it’s best to assume every non-American’s viewpoint of anything to do with America is basically: “Ew, it’s awful, please make it go away and dear god make it stop talking.”
@ Name:
Well, there are multiple types of fires even in the cities. There are the ones started by Antifa, mostly at (federal) government buildings and various other smaller dumpsters and any non guarded police cars. These are lit against the system as a political protest/revolution. Then there are the apartement building fires set by BLM to protest/fight against gentrification of traditionally poor black neighbourhoods. However the most common are the store fires, started to cover the tracks of looters as a fire mostly hides the fact that the store was picked clean beforehand.
The general order is a mostly peaceful protest in the daytime, a not too peacful protest in the evening, followed by just engough rioting to mask the lootings in the area. The protesting and rioting is mostly done by BLM and Antifa members and their allies, while the looting is done by criminals. As it turns out most BLM street activists so far turned out to be (ex) criminals, so we are talking about the same people here. Antifa is mostly white, mostly upper middle class or above, who just want to be a revolutionary. BLM has a more stable and better organized leadership with mostly maoist univeristy teachers at the top with an unknown (and very generous) source of money. At least they have a goal, which was mostly successfully implemented in Zimbabwe and South Africa as they successfully got rid of most whiteness. So it’s possible and it’s a possible future for the USA and not like those countries are running out of food or water, so white people (and east asians) are really not needed in the USA either and there is a mostly democratic way to vote about this very soon. I’m sure at least 110% of the votes will support the no whiteness (no white people) plan.
@ Oldishone:
Well, stating otherwise, I wish SJW’s etc in other countries I have lived in (Australia, UK, Ireland) would stop importing the issues from the US and then attempting to apply them locally to further their own agendas.
We don’t need to have your culture wars imposed on us, we have enough issues of our own to deal with.
John wrote:
The ‘culture wars’ are going on in all Western countries, not only the US. Everywhere we have people claiming the West would be utterly evil, intolerant or violent – although literally every random country in the entire world is more intolerant, more violent and even worse concerning racism than US or Europe.
Oldishone wrote:
Except jeans, coca Cola, Hollywood movies, google, amazon, facebook, twitter… 😉
Western news hasn’t been real news since 2013-2016. Small local news is more reliable. Some youtubers give real news too. Mr Obvious. Styxhexenhammer666. Or best would be
Timcast/Tim Pool/Timcast IRL on youtube. He has a few channels. Licensed journalist showing his multiple fact checker verified sources.
And here’s why news in the west is allowed to be fake.
https://commonsenseevaluation.com/2016/11/21/propaganda-on-the-us-public/
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‘Anti-Propaganda’ Ban Repealed, Freeing State Dept.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130715/11210223804/anti-propaganda-ban-repealed-freeing-state-dept-to-direct-its-broadcasting-arm-american-citizens.shtml
Before the morning makeup routine Korean women look almost exactly like Voldemort
WRONG. You are spreading debunked disinformation. When you hear “BLM” mentioned in conjunction with the fires, it is referring to the Bureau of Land Management, the federal agency charges with the administration of public lands. Right-wing agitators heard “BLM” and saw an opportunity to blame Antifa for something they had no involvement with. Read the article.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/wildfires-rage-false-antifa-rumors-spur-pleas-police-n1239881
@ Ken:
Another link: https://hillreporter.com/fbi-tells-conspiracy-theorists-stop-blaming-black-lives-matter-activists-for-wildfires-78682
@ Titan:
Are you referring to the fact that KLM is also the Royal Dutch Airline?
@ Sal:
Local news is not reliable in the United States. The vast majority of it was bought by the large networks in the last decade, and now is forced by contract to repeat their talking points with just enough variation to avoid people checking who owns the station. For a nasty surprise, look up who’s running your newsroom.
MviluUatusun wrote:
No, it sounds like “Kill ’em” when you say it out loud
@ Alice Macher:
Did you hear the news? As the US is in decline, and Russia is descending into dictatorship, and EU is arguing among themselves, South Korea is actually the fastest-rising start and is likely going to be the world’s next super-power.
Ken wrote:
QAnon, specifically. https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/11/tech/qanon-oregon-fire-conspiracy-theory/index.html
Curiously, Proud Boys are also getting blamed for the wildfires.
I lived in Japan for a few years as a teacher. It was well known people went on vacation to S. Korea to get nose jobs. My students wanted to go to S. Korea to “become beautiful.” And yet older genrations of Japanese in general do not like Korea but the youth do because they love all k-pop. My friends who worked in S. Korea said students there hate Japanese people, lingering from WW2 crimes.
So my interpretation is not that this is an American joke, but a typical comment a Japanese person would actually say about Korean women. (Because they do say this.)
@ Hegel Marx:
@ Logan:
The police are the ones getting shot at without reason. They are also the ones with the authority to try and stop these idiots. “Protests” are protected under the law, as they should be. anyone with an opinion should be allowed, Nay, Protected as they exercise their free speech. the Looters and Rioters would serve our country better with their grey matter smeared on the buildings they are attempting to destroy by government snipers.Probably a good thing I am not president, As I’m of the opinion that if you shoot the first few rioters, the rest tend to think REAL hard about whether looting is a good idea. Trump just wants to arrest them. Awful Nice of him.
@ MrSethos:
Which do you want? Rule of law, or shooting people on sight? You can’t have both.
Don’t you mean Statunitian news?
Amusing to see the comments split into a group talking about Korean nosejobs and a group pointlessly bashing each other up over US politics.
@ Matthew Wells:
The problem with the lawn order types is that they’re usually willing to sacrifice the law to maintain their preferred order.
@ Me-me:
Kenosha, Wisconsin in the US saw peaceful protests during the day. All the rioting and looting happened at night. There was a 12-hour curfew at night but it was routinely broken. Estimated damage to the city is $50 million. And it’s not even a big town – only about 100,000 people.
@ Crystalgate:
“Several members of both BLM and Antifa has shouted both “Black lives matter” and “defound the police” and those are mutually exclusive. Satisfying those kinds of people will be impossible.”
It’s not impossible. There’s confusion around the phrase “defund the police” – it does NOT mean stopping all funding. Instead it means shifting some of the funding from police, who can only respond after a crime has been committed (or is in progress,) to social programs that would help PREVENT crime. Police in this country are expected to do too much.
MrSethos wrote:
The actual solution would be to simply grant the left a patch of land, where they can live together with IS and Antifa – and without pesky police, army and awful, intolerably white people.
Anyone who goes “both sides” when Trump and the Republican party are involved is a Trump-proagandist. You canot trust people who have sacrificed tens of thousands of American people for their political aims.
@ Arent:
mmmhm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj0e_zd3-70
@ Crystalgate:
People on the left also call themselves Marxists, Communists, Maoists and the like. Quite often.
Meanwhile the ones who are obviously and/or self identify as Nazis and white supremacists are overwhelmingly against Trump. Whether because they truly support the left, or they recognise that actual people detest them, neither is good for Antifa, BLM or Communists.
Best case is the Nazis are just self aware and running black propaganda by siding with their ideological enemies. Because that would support the idea that the left is stupid.
Worst case scenario is the Nazis are sincere in their support of Democrat politicians and their hatred of Trump. Because that would support the idea that the left is evil.
Neither is good for the left.
@ jb:
There are hours and hours and hours of fox news being caught lyingor otherwise making baseless accusations. You don’t have to accept another biased source, but you can’t take them for factual reporting. It should not be humanly possible for a news station to call the corona virus a liberal hoax. Also that talk about the millions in damages? That is a Tiny amount for a country as large as the US. The LA riots did over a Billion in damages. And that was a 90’s billion in just LA. Everyone is just throwing around numbers that don’t mean anything because no one can just Look at the actual scope.
Anywho, the conservative narrative of constant riots and looting is deliberately misleading. Anyone who actually lives around those protests can attest to the misrepresentation of the protests. Even if it wasn’t, I personally think that doesn’t matter as much as the systemic oppression and murder of minorities and think anyone who rather talk about property damage rather than y’know the murders has already fallen into a messed up narrative.
But let’s say all news is biased. Let’s say, you can’t trust the mountains of evidence that the conservative spin isn’t obviously more false. Where do you put the burden of proof?
The first time trump deployed federal officers at a peaceful protest in front of the whitehouse, with news cameras rolling, he had them attack the protestors, we have first person footage of a new cameraman being attacked, to disperse the crowd so he could take a photo in front of a church with an upside down bible without going inside.
Knowing that, indisputable fact, there must be a greater burden of evidence placed on the federal officers behaving civilly and trumps intention being just. Any accusation of against them must be taken at least a little seriously because he’s had people attacked for less.
Starfox wrote:
Anyone who marches side by side with Yusra Khogali is obviously not opposed to intolerance or racism at all. You cannot trust those who march alongside people who are actually worse concerning racism than any american policeman could ever be.
Mogster wrote:
I doubt it works that easily. One problem is that the social programs take time to work while the raise in crime would come immediately. The second problem is that the social programs are probably more expensive. The majority of the police budget goes to police wages, but a cop spends far less time per criminal he interacts with than most social would with a troubled person.
You probably need to found the social programs without defunding the police. Maybe you can do so after the social programs has taken effect.
Also, comparing the number of cops in the US with various European countries, it does not seem as if the US has that many. I don’t know if cutting down on them would be a good idea even with better social programs.
@ Mogster:
There is one who wants to defund entire cities, including their police. https://nypost.com/2020/09/02/trump-orders-review-to-defund-nyc-other-anarchist-cities/
@ Crystalgate:
i dunno….maybe if the police weren’t dressed up with all that fancy storm trooper gear there’d actually be some money for say….social workers and social programs. but omg, i just said the s word. so obvs i’m a crazy socialist, dundunDUN! rolling my eyes over here.
10 more replies and my prediction was right. Come on guys, you can do it!
@ Me-me:
well, would you call arson,destruction and looting peaceful
@ Logan Cameron:
Anyone who has been in the middle east will say it’s the army that wins most of the time. Regimes fall when the army switches allegiance, usually because those in power have no money to give them, rather then when ‘the people protest’
And I’m not in the USA, I barely know of the protests but it seems strange to blame only the police for the violence. Maybe you’re right but it seems unusual that the police would attack perfectly peaceful people
@ Marelt:
Marelt wrote:
Thx for the explantion! (Y)
Surely you are aware that Japan and Korea have some “history?”
Much like Germany and Poland…
demonicsocialist wrote:
That seems to make sense, but it doesn’t work out that way in reality. The majority of military gear the police has was given from the US military’s excess for free. Getting that money redirected to social programs will be much more complicated and cannot be done by making changes to the police, you have to go to the US military.
Things are getting heated in the comments.
Kyle Rittenhouse did nothing wrong!
@ jb:
What i got from the story so far, that the damage from riots in the last few months is as big as the LosAngeles riots from 1992.
And you got millions on the streets peacefully most of them not seen in the media.
At least the violent protests and some unasked intervention by Washington make a nice distraction from the corona disaster.
Crystalgate wrote:
I’m pretty sure that the cost of the officers’ uniforms and gear isn’t even remotely comparable to their annual salaries and benefits.
(Hey, am I comment 100?)